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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 07:15 AM
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Any chance that the 2" Fred's spacers used for the '15 superduty 18" wheels are causing additional wear & tear on the hubs?

Just thinking loud here. If I end up having to replace the hubs/bearings etc., I'd rather fix other stuff that may be contributing to the failure. It could also turn out to be a simple lube and reinstall to rid the noise
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by unleashd
Any chance that the 2" Fred's spacers used for the '15 superduty 18" wheels are causing additional wear & tear on the hubs?

Very possible.

The Truth About Wheel Spacers - Safety - Off-Road Magazine

By increasing the offset of the wheel, you place more stress on the axle’s studs, and in a front axle application on the unit bearings (or spindles) and ball joints of the axle. You also increase the tire scrub radius, changing the way the vehicle handles and increasing the difficulty of slow-speed turning.


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Not what I wanted to hear right now Any suggestions on replacement parts, if this is the culprit?

Timken are the preferred option over some East Asian option.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mecdac
Very possible.

The Truth About Wheel Spacers - Safety - Off-Road Magazine

By increasing the offset of the wheel, you place more stress on the axle’s studs, and in a front axle application on the unit bearings (or spindles) and ball joints of the axle. You also increase the tire scrub radius, changing the way the vehicle handles and increasing the difficulty of slow-speed turning.





Timken are the preferred option over some East Asian option.
Thanks Mark. I need to apply for a loan now
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 09:41 AM
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Mine does the same thing and I found it to be slop in the drive line. I placed the rear on jackstands and had my boy put it in gear and bring it up to speed slowly. While underneath it, it could hear the noise and see the vibration at the slip joint. I know this isn't a safe practice, but it ruled out my original thought (bearings).
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by inthedirt
Mine does the same thing and I found it to be slop in the drive line. I placed the rear on jackstands and had my boy put it in gear and bring it up to speed slowly. While underneath it, it could hear the noise and see the vibration at the slip joint. I know this isn't a safe practice, but it ruled out my original thought (bearings).
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Was following your other thread as well to see that you made a successful fix. I will let a knowledgeable person handle this work
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 11:43 AM
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Originally Posted by unleashd
Any chance that the 2" Fred's spacers used for the '15 superduty 18" wheels are causing additional wear & tear on the hubs?

Just thinking loud here. If I end up having to replace the hubs/bearings etc., I'd rather fix other stuff that may be contributing to the failure. It could also turn out to be a simple lube and reinstall to rid the noise
Only if you bring the centerline of the wheels further in or out then as was intended by Ford. From my understanding, Fred's wheel spacers are just recentering you wheel due to the backspacing being different on the newer wheels as the newer superduty has a wider track. Basically, an older style with no spacer wheel and a newer style ('05 super duty and up) with the spacer will have the same backspacing so there won't be any additional wear.

Check your front axle ujoints, if your locking hubs are engaged they will make turning the wheel at a standstil extremely difficult if they are bad. Also, if the front unit bearing/hubs are bad you can get the roaring noise. Or it could be a seized brake caliper.
 
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Old Jan 14, 2018 | 11:50 AM
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An IR thermometer is your best friend when trying to find hub-bearing or brake issues.
 
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 05:21 AM
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Which of these timkens do I need to pick? one says coarse thread, the other is for fine thread.

 
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Old Jan 19, 2018 | 05:43 AM
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Ordering the assembly with "Coarse" threads (14-2) for my '00. Threads changed to the fine (14-1.5) sometime in 2003+
 
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