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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 03:47 PM
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Cummins Endorses Two Fuel Additives

Cummins Endorses Two Fuel Additives
May 10, 2017

For the first time in company history, Cummins has officially endorsed a fuel additive, recommending two Power Service products, Diesel Kleen + Cetane Boost and Diesel Fuel Supplement + Cetane Boost.

The announcement came after Cummins conducted internal testing and concluded that both products meet Cummins requirements. These are the first fuel additive products that Cummins has ever officially recommendeded in the marketplace, according to the company.

“In recent years, diesel fuel quality has become increasingly important as engines evolve and the diesel fuel manufacturing processes change,” said Roger England, director of technical quality and materials engineering for Cummins. “The Power Service Diesel Kleen and Diesel Fuel Supplement additives provide easily accessible solutions with proven technology to customers in the field when they encounter challenges with their fuel such as poor lubricity, low cetane numbers, low-temperature operability issues, injector deposits, etc.”

Power Service Diesel Kleen +Cetane Boost is designed to be used as a year-round performance enhancer. The company said it can clean dirty injectors, prevent injector sticking, smooth rough-running engines, and improve fuel economy.

Diesel Fuel Supplement +Cetane Boost is recommended for use in winter months when temperatures drop below 30 degrees Fahrenheit. It is a winterizer/anti-gel used to prevent fuel gelling and keep fuel filters from plugging with ice and wax.

“Cummins is in a unique position in that we design not only the engine, but also the turbochargers, fuel system, and aftertreatment systems, which enables us to fully leverage the Power Service diesel fuel additive technologies,” said England
 
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Old Dec 14, 2017 | 07:57 PM
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Interesting but not surprised.

I pump this into my 6.7 every 200 miles.
 
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Old Dec 15, 2017 | 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by F250_Super_4X4
...“Cummins is in a unique position in that we design not only the engine, but also the turbochargers, fuel system, and aftertreatment systems, which enables us to fully leverage the Power Service diesel fuel additive technologies,” said England
So Cummins makes the engine, and the Holset turbo is a division of Cummins...but the fuel pump is a Bosch CP3 or CP4 same as Ford? What are they talking about?

This was probably nothing other than a handshake deal in which PowerService gives Cummins a but of money in exchange for the [uneeded] endorsement.

You need to put anti-gel in your fuel at 30F? Really, Cummins?
 
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Old Dec 16, 2017 | 05:53 PM
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Nothing new to me been running it for years best product in the world JD even recommends it. Just loaded the 17 up tonight temperatures down in the single-digit a definite necessary product for New York State crap fuel take care
 
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 08:15 AM
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Nothing new to me been running it for years best product in the world JD even recommends it. Just loaded the 17 up tonight temperatures down in the single-digit a definite necessary product for New York State crap fuel take care
Deere recommends their own products and they are made by Stanadyne.
 
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 09:34 AM
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Better go check new 5M power service white small bottle right in the cab door with all jd paper work dealer told me use it . I love you guys with this bs about fuel products. please i have been using PS for 20 years and yes even in the new systems. brother has over 40 years diesel mechanic swears buy it use what ever you like omg its not going to hurt your fuel system
 
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by radium
Better go check new 5M power service white small bottle right in the cab door with all jd paper work dealer told me use it . I love you guys with this bs about fuel products. please i have been using PS for 20 years and yes even in the new systems. brother has over 40 years diesel mechanic swears buy it use what ever you like omg its not going to hurt your fuel system
My 5085M didn't come with Power Service and even if it did I wouldn't use it. It's one of the worst products out there. I don't run Deere (Stanadyne) either. I run Optilube XPD in my 5085M, 6105R, 329CTL and 4066R.

As I said unless Deere changed suppliers Stanadyne makes Deere fuel conditioners. If you got PS with your tractor then maybe they made a deal with Deere for the Georgia built stuff.
Find the Spicer study and you will see that PS is way down on the list.

Good luck!
 
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Old Dec 27, 2017 | 10:27 AM
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Originally Posted by johndeerefarmer
Find the Spicer study and you will see that PS is way down on the list.
1. The study was executed in 2007, alot has changed since then. Power Service is on their 5th formulation since then and XPD was experimental and not in its final formulation. I will admit that XPD is excellent especially when using "Raw" Diesel #2 (ULSD), i have never seen Raw #2 for sale though.

2. 99.99% of ULSD fuel purchased at the roadside pump has additives included. So a fuel additive should supplement the common occurring additives found at the pump.

3. XPD adds an alcohol compound as a demulsifier, generally regarded as not optimal for diesel fuel systems.

I stay away from any additives that touts Emulsifiers or Demulsifiers. IMHO the water separator system does a good job on its own.

I prefer an additive that adds lubricity to counter act the ULSD currently sold and a cetane number increaser due to different ratings across regions.
 
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The company I work for has a fleet of over 700 Cummins engines. From 4 cylinder to QSK50's putting out 2500hp and over 7000ft/lbs. 5 years ago they told us to run a conditioner in all engines to help preserve the injectors. On a QSK50 replacing injectors is a $75k job. Most of our engines can go 20,000 hours at full load without injector issues. That wasn't the case before. Diesel Kleen is what we were told to use. They said we did not need to run it in every tank and suggested at least 200 hour intervals. The QSK50 can consume 80 gallons/hour when running at load.
That tells me anti-gel and cetane are not the major concern.
I'm also sure that it is not a "Marketing" favour but you can believe what you want.
 
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3. XPD adds an alcohol compound as a demulsifier, generally regarded as not optimal for diesel fuel systems.

I stay away from any additives that touts Emulsifiers or Demulsifiers. IMHO the water separator system does a good job on its own.
A demulsifier separates the water out of the fuel. This is a good thing as it makes it so the water separator can collect the water. The water separator can NOT collect the water if it's mixed (emulsified) into the fuel.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2017 | 10:47 PM
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Where’s everybody been this has been in the works for years now. I posted something a while back and most people said it’s bad for your equipment and I’ve been running it for years and no problems with my engines or injection systems.
Why is Ford having problems with there trucks that are burning there recemenned additive? $$
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 12:25 AM
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Interesting but not surprised.

I pump this into my 6.7 every 200 miles.
Me too and if I stray I can tell.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 08:37 AM
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A demulsifier separates the water out of the fuel. This is a good thing as it makes it so the water separator can collect the water. The water separator can NOT collect the water if it's mixed (emulsified) into the fuel.
The big 3 manufacturers have never once recommended any product that demulsifies water.

Demulsifiers actually do not assist the water separator. That's been a long standing myth that many folks believe as fact thanks to snake oil marketing.

Stick to what the manufacturers recommend, it's always the same: lubricity + cetane boost and nothing else (no emulsifiers, no demulsifiers, no cleaning agents).
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 02:49 PM
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How long has the big 3 been building diesels? Dehmler/Mercedes,Caterpillar,Cummins,Detroit,Perkins and a few others have been wrong for years then, They make there money on parts not the initial sale of the vehicle.Rudolf Diesel was using additives to run his engines for better performance. Fuel quality is all over the board in different areas of the country.
 
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Old Dec 30, 2017 | 03:17 PM
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How long has the big 3 been building diesels? Dehmler/Mercedes,Caterpillar,Cummins,Detroit,Perkins and a few others have been wrong for years then, They make there money on parts not the initial sale of the vehicle.Rudolf Diesel was using additives to run his engines for better performance. Fuel quality is all over the board in different areas of the country
So how can a manufacture of vechile know what the engin
 
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