TTY after HG
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A minor note re: my truck.....
Back during the 2nd year of ownership my HG's had to be replaced. I walked into the service bay and spoke with the tech who would work on my engine. I held out a box of ARP studs and asked him if he'd install them and he said sure.
Several years later, still during the factory warranty period, I visited a different Ford dealership and began discussing what would have been additional warranty work. The service manager pulled up my VIN and said...."You've had head studs installed. Ford has red-flagged your vehicle and your warranty has been voided." Ford was heavy into denying warranty repairs on the 6.0 by then.
David
Back during the 2nd year of ownership my HG's had to be replaced. I walked into the service bay and spoke with the tech who would work on my engine. I held out a box of ARP studs and asked him if he'd install them and he said sure.
Several years later, still during the factory warranty period, I visited a different Ford dealership and began discussing what would have been additional warranty work. The service manager pulled up my VIN and said...."You've had head studs installed. Ford has red-flagged your vehicle and your warranty has been voided." Ford was heavy into denying warranty repairs on the 6.0 by then.
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A minor note re: my truck.....
Back during the 2nd year of ownership my HG's had to be replaced. I walked into the service bay and spoke with the tech who would work on my engine. I held out a box of ARP studs and asked him if he'd install them and he said sure.
Several years later, still during the factory warranty period, I visited a different Ford dealership and began discussing what would have been additional warranty work. The service manager pulled up my VIN and said...."You've had head studs installed. Ford has red-flagged your vehicle and your warranty has been voided." Ford was heavy into denying warranty repairs on the 6.0 by then.
David
Back during the 2nd year of ownership my HG's had to be replaced. I walked into the service bay and spoke with the tech who would work on my engine. I held out a box of ARP studs and asked him if he'd install them and he said sure.
Several years later, still during the factory warranty period, I visited a different Ford dealership and began discussing what would have been additional warranty work. The service manager pulled up my VIN and said...."You've had head studs installed. Ford has red-flagged your vehicle and your warranty has been voided." Ford was heavy into denying warranty repairs on the 6.0 by then.
David
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The dealer is not Ford. The dealer is Ford’s customer, and you are the dealers customer. A dealer can do authorized and unauthorized tasks, which can effect your warranty and any payment by Ford to the dealer. The dealer-Ford relationship ain’t necessary pretty.
In my area Downs Ford would not do studs under any circumstance. Geo Wall Ford prefers to do them, but it’s not an endorsed “Ford” warrantied item, it’s the dealers.
Every dealer in service and parts can set up their own protocol, they might not get paid for things by Ford though.
In my area Downs Ford would not do studs under any circumstance. Geo Wall Ford prefers to do them, but it’s not an endorsed “Ford” warrantied item, it’s the dealers.
Every dealer in service and parts can set up their own protocol, they might not get paid for things by Ford though.
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For what it's worth I read somewhere (on FTE I think, but if not, one one of the other sites I read occasionally) that TTY bolts got a worse than deserved rap because of an auto torquing device used at the International plant when they produced these engines being out of calibration so the bolts weren't being torqued to spec. Supposedly this was discovered sometime in early 05 and corrected. They still are a weaker clamping devise than ARP studs, but not as bad as first believed. It must be true, I saw it on the internet. lol
And then I've read it never happened, the Navistar robots never got out of calibration and it wasn't part of Ford's lawsuit against Navistar...
I kinda' like the first version myself, but then again I own an '07, and we ALL know they pretty much came bullet proof from the factory...
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I have read that on here, years ago, I even believed it because I also read that the out-of-spec torque was discovered by Ford technicians working on really new trucks. I read and heard it enough that I even repeated it. And that is how internet rumors become internet "facts".
And then I've read it never happened, the Navistar robots never got out of calibration and it wasn't part of Ford's lawsuit against Navistar...
I kinda' like the first version myself, but then again I own an '07, and we ALL know they pretty much came bullet proof from the factory...
And then I've read it never happened, the Navistar robots never got out of calibration and it wasn't part of Ford's lawsuit against Navistar...
I kinda' like the first version myself, but then again I own an '07, and we ALL know they pretty much came bullet proof from the factory...
Sometimes I wonder why I type the things I do, even as I'm typing them. Maybe this should of been one of those times....
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