So YOU ADMIT Dorman pipes had an issue but Clay is a bully because he won't warranty a product YOU ADMIT had an issue?? How is it if Clay accuses the Dorman pipes of be flawed a false accusation that he could be held accountable for but you can say it and suddenly it's unarguable fact? I wonder if dorman could you hold you accountable for those accusations? Doesn't it suck when you type faster than you think?
I'm sure Clay would be more than happy to lose your business.

You've come here yourself for help and done nothing but insult the individuals that offer to help. Others have come here for help and you've offered nothing but insult to those asking for help. I wonder how long it will take before the members here just simply ignore your requests for help??

 

I have been friends with Andy for many years now and appreciate his input. I miss having those awesome tech days at your old place and getting the brotherhood together. I would like to correct one small thing. We haven’t ever sold Dorman, we brought some in before they were widely released and tested 3 sets. Due to huge flaws we decided that we didn’t feel it was a product we could back or recommend. We do still install them if a customer brings them in but we can’t offer a labor warranty on them because of this issues we have seen the last couple years they have been available.

I am glad to hear your Dorman pipes are holding up, some do and some don’t. We won’t sell anything we can’t stand behind and we can’t lose labor costs by swapping out a product that fails, still to this day, more often than it should. It has nothing to do with bullying a customer into a product, and it isn’t an accusation that Dormans are flawed it’s reality, we have changed out over a dozen sets of them for cracked bellows, leaking welds, cracked castings, and not to mention many in the beginning with threaded holes. International have failures as well though, but at an acceptable rate. In a decade and thousands of International pipes we have installed and sold we have warrantied... 4 pipes.

Thank you Sir, I appreciate your support. I would prefer to not lose any customers and support their choice of options of parts. For a decade we have set Riffraff apart by only selling parts we can stand behind, and run on our own trucks. Does it mean we are infallible or have the last word on quality? Not at all, but it does mean we will continue to sell a quality part even though it has a much smaller margin than a questionable high margin item because it is about integrity not about markup.

If there are any questions on Early 99 or parts interchanging feel free to give us a call. We are always happy to help. I hope everyone has a good evening and the OP can get his questions answered.

 

First, back off the animosity - we don't need the confrontational attitude here, and even when you are correct, it doesn't help anyone actually believe what you're saying.

Second, yes, you are SOMEWHAT correct in terms of OBD-II. OBD-II is now used to describe two entirely different things:

1) The electrical interface which is SAE J1962 - which uses the "OBD-II" connector. Just because your code reader/scanner can plug into it doesn't mean it will know how to interface with the PCM.

2) OBD-II as an emissions standard. Full OBD-II compliance is along the lines of full catalytic converter efficiency monitoring, misfire monitoring and a bunch of other stuff.

Problem is, people confuse the two. For example, most/many of the early V10's from 2000-2004 were not "OBD-II compliant" because they didn't have an O2 sensor after the catalytic converter, misfire monitors would not throw a check-engine-light, and a bunch of other things that would make a normal OBD-II passenger car not pass an emissions inspection because the CEL would be on and many monitors would never say "passed". On the V10's, you can use an "OBD-II" code reader/scanner, but that doesn't mean it's "OBD-II compliant". In fact, it's considered OBD-I.

So when you mix OBD2 in a sentence describing anything that the 7.3L does or does not do, you are actually somewhat INCORRECT.

Now, can we all just get along?

 

FMIC I think he was trying to say a front-mounted intercooler and for the truck I think he has a early 99 that someone put a late 99 motor into

 

well now that im back figured id make you eat your own words.. just got done installing 99+ bellowed up pipes WITH MY OEM MANIFOLDS.. as i stated before my build date is 12/97 and i have EXACT SAME EXHAUST..

 

sorry got busy the last two weeks and i got a 4 post lift.

yes i was referring to front mounted intercooler sorry i come from auto x and drift world but also have 4 diesel trucks.

in reference to my cheap obd scanner i do not know brand bought it on ebay 3 years ago its the elm 327 but nothing specific.

i just rebuilt the gtp38 with 5-5 wheel new bearings etc. also got a deleted pedestal and evbp delete. just test fitted pedestal, turbo, and up pipes and they all bolted up fine to my 12/97 truck.
i am pulling them all back off plugging engine and cleaning everything then removing fuel system and putting the L99 fuel system on.
this truck is just my hauler/screw around truck not looking for high hp have other toys for that.

 

Unless your using a 99+ turbo pedestal they're going to sit too high for your stock Turbo

 

i am. doing 99+ ped, turbo. fuel bowl, etc. not looking for high gains. i couldn't get over 5 psi of boost before and figured a full revamp was more practical than just some new gaskets

 

I just finished doing the same thing to my early 99

 

had to use my plasma cutter to get the bolts off then the up pipes fell out lol safe to say they were toast

 

Sounds like you have a partially converted e99 to l99 truck? I didn't follow all the details, but here is a kit from one of our site sponsors, Riffraff Diesel.

It might be a nice list to check to see what might have been done or need done as you do the L99+ stuff.

Riffraff Diesel Early 99 to Late 99-03 Conversion Kit for Ford 7.3L

These are fun trucks with mostly bolt-on and tune power adders. Looking forward to what you do with it

 

Which injectors do you have, AB or AD?

130cc vs 140cc.

Many, including myself, are upgrading to 160/80 as a mild enhancement. Others have some pretty big injectors.

What are your plans for injectors and tunes? Hydra is a good multi-position platform that a number of tuners provide tunes for.

 

ok so sorry for the drama as apparently some people think to know it all
my truck is a 97 with a build date of 12/97.
the 99+ bellowed up pipes and turbo flange fit great (ebay) [WITH STOCK MANIFOLDS]
i rebuilt a late 99 turbo and slapped it on.
i did have to weld the l99 down pipe flange onto the obs down pipe.
after removing fuel bowl i made my own e-fuel kit consisting of 2 spin on filter mounts, l99 fuel pump, a spare fuel pressure regulator i had laying around, and misc brass fittings.
3 inch intakes added and intercooler from l99 installed.

went from 5-8 psi (bad up pipes) to 28 psi on 100 tune and 19-21 on stock

 

i had AA injectors (90cc) but i already had them rebuilt to 160/80 and i have a TW ts6 chip with tunes for this specific set up.

i have very mild smoke untill spool up then a very light haze at wot.
i also set my fuel pressure to 65.

 

yes it does you are wrong buddy e 99 does have the hole in the spider cause mine sure does as well the aih with 2 and I mean 2 glow plug relays you really need to do research Mine was built in October of 98