1961 - 1966 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks Discuss the Slick Sixties Ford Truck

Advice on turbocharging?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
  #1  
Old 11-02-2017, 09:40 PM
Tristian Knutson's Avatar
Tristian Knutson
Tristian Knutson is offline
5th Wheeling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Advice on turbocharging?

So I got a 64 f100 with a FE390 in it. I just finished putting new Edelbrock Performer RPM heads and intake. Trucks running great. Now I’m interested in turbocharging it. Any suggestions on what I use and should I twin turbo it?
Many thanks guys
 
  #2  
Old 11-02-2017, 10:47 PM
RangerMercMan's Avatar
RangerMercMan
RangerMercMan is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,474
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
This question would be easier to answer knowing that when you swapped heads you planned for boosted pressures. You need to have a lower static compression which you get from a lower compression ratio. The turbos will artificially raise the compression ratio giving you more "squeeze". This is only a basic answer. I am not a hands on expert, only a well read enthusiast. I have a book on turbo chargers from Hugh MacInnis written in 1984. While tremendous advancements have been made in turbos and fuel induction systems, the principles of air properties have not changed by more than decimal places so its a good read. One of the best hot rodding pieces of advise ever is to go to the experts who play with what you want. They have done the trial and error of what works for most applications. Gale Banks is a big name in turbos for going fast.
 
  #3  
Old 11-03-2017, 03:36 AM
Crop Duster's Avatar
Crop Duster
Crop Duster is online now
Logistics Pro

Join Date: May 2015
Location: Tri Cities, TN
Posts: 3,593
Received 521 Likes on 414 Posts
Turbo's ?

Originally Posted by Tristian Knutson
So I got a 64 f100 with a FE390 in it. I just finished putting new Edelbrock Performer RPM heads and intake. Trucks running great. Now I’m interested in turbocharging it. Any suggestions on what I use and should I twin turbo it?
Many thanks guys
You been watching too much Street Outlaws. Just put a 100HP shot of nitrous on it. That will blow the bottom out of that 390 just as quick as twin turbos and save you several thousand dollars in the process.
 
  #4  
Old 11-03-2017, 05:03 AM
The Masked Rider's Avatar
The Masked Rider
The Masked Rider is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Jan 2011
Posts: 1,670
Likes: 0
Received 4 Likes on 4 Posts
CD, that was funny and sure as hell correct. Ya can't just slap turbos on a motor and call it good. Heck, even a shot of 100hp nos could hang a piston out the side of the block if it wasn't built for it. Even if you made it past the all the compressed gasses stage, you sure better have a large enough exhaust system to those now expanded gas. I've seen some pretty scary stuff happen to a motor not set up right.

And with that said, many years ago, I did build a 65' Corvair with twin Rajay turbos, pulling through a 650 Holley. Strange thing to see - a 6 banger Corvair pulling wheel stands. BUT, the motor was built for it.
 
  #5  
Old 11-03-2017, 02:18 PM
theastronaut's Avatar
theastronaut
theastronaut is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 713
Received 188 Likes on 96 Posts
A proper tune will be what make or breaks a turbo engine. Plenty of guys running deep into the 10's with junkyard 4.8 and 5.3 Chevy truck engines with little or no internal modifications.

There's an Engine Masters youtube vid where they make over 700 hp with a stock bottom end chevy small block with cast pistons. A conservitive tune and good gas will make it work and last a long time.

Adding water/meth injection will help a lot if you're not going to drop the compression ratio. I'd rather leave the CR alone and add water/meth.





Here's a 640 whp turbo/nitrous Ford Fairmont with a $80 buck junkyard 4.8 with mismatched cylinder heads, used head bolts and head gaskets, and they "torqued" the head bolts out of sequence with an impact... so no care was taken in assembling the engine. It has a great tune so it makes power and lives.

 
  #6  
Old 11-03-2017, 02:23 PM
theastronaut's Avatar
theastronaut
theastronaut is offline
More Turbo
Join Date: Mar 2013
Posts: 713
Received 188 Likes on 96 Posts
This may be similar to what you're working with... stock bottom end with better heads. Again, this test was done with proper tuning and fuel. You can squeeze quite a bit of power out of a turbo if it's done correctly.

Stock GM LS Engine - Big Bang Theory - Hot Rod Network
 
  #7  
Old 11-03-2017, 07:41 PM
RangerMercMan's Avatar
RangerMercMan
RangerMercMan is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,474
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
We are talking old school FE not LS Chevy. You need to have ARP bolts holding the bottom end together
 
  #8  
Old 11-03-2017, 09:24 PM
1972RedNeck's Avatar
1972RedNeck
1972RedNeck is offline
Logistics Pro
Join Date: Feb 2011
Location: Townsend, MT
Posts: 3,521
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 5 Posts
Originally Posted by RangerMercMan
We are talking old school FE not LS Chevy. You need to have ARP bolts holding the bottom end together
As well as holding the heads on. Forged pistons never hurt either. MLS head gaskets will be a must for longevity.
 
  #9  
Old 11-03-2017, 11:23 PM
RangerMercMan's Avatar
RangerMercMan
RangerMercMan is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,474
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Yes those are good points RedNeck. There are actually many things that have to be done to a 390. It was never factory built as a race motor, unlike the 427 sideoiler (hint hint at the oil system). If the OP wants turbo power go with a modular V8 such as the 4.6 interceptor, or the modern iteration of the 5.0.
 
  #10  
Old 11-04-2017, 03:44 AM
Crop Duster's Avatar
Crop Duster
Crop Duster is online now
Logistics Pro

Join Date: May 2015
Location: Tri Cities, TN
Posts: 3,593
Received 521 Likes on 414 Posts
Turbo

Originally Posted by Tristian Knutson
So I got a 64 f100 with a FE390 in it. I just finished putting new Edelbrock Performer RPM heads and intake. Trucks running great. Now I’m interested in turbocharging it. Any suggestions on what I use and should I twin turbo it?
Many thanks guys
By the way. In your other thread this engine wouldn't run. What was the fix for that?
 
  #11  
Old 11-04-2017, 09:50 AM
RangerMercMan's Avatar
RangerMercMan
RangerMercMan is offline
Posting Guru
Join Date: Aug 2016
Location: Great White North
Posts: 1,474
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
I know I am butting in with an answer here, but I believe his fix was he had incorrectly numbered his cylinders in the Chevy configuration instead of Ford FE. This meant that he ended up having the firing order incorrect.
 
  #12  
Old 11-04-2017, 11:18 AM
Tristian Knutson's Avatar
Tristian Knutson
Tristian Knutson is offline
5th Wheeling
Thread Starter
Join Date: Aug 2017
Posts: 36
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Originally Posted by RangerMercMan
I know I am butting in with an answer here, but I believe his fix was he had incorrectly numbered his cylinders in the Chevy configuration instead of Ford FE. This meant that he ended up having the firing order incorrect.
correct. I had the wrong firing order
 
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
73 ford guy
Supercharger, Turbocharger, Nitrous Oxide & Water/Methanol Injection
2
01-17-2012 11:07 PM
Wreckit87
1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks
14
10-04-2011 12:15 PM
SillyValleyF250
FE & FT Big Block V8 (332, 352, 360, 390, 406, 410, 427, 428)
20
11-03-2010 02:16 PM
LTBoltman
1999 - 2003 7.3L Power Stroke Diesel
3
09-06-2003 09:01 PM



Quick Reply: Advice on turbocharging?



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 04:32 AM.