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Old Nov 1, 2017 | 12:10 PM
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i would back off the lugnuts and wiggle the rims and then retighten the nuts again.. what many dont realize with torquing the nuts down is you can actually get the rims misaligned.. Torquing them doesnt insure theyre on straight it just means the lugnuts met the torque spec you were aiming for. if you were fine before rotating the rim then that is probably where your issue really is.. with duallys its real easy to not get them on straight.. it can happen with single wheels too if someone torques one nut down all the way first without insuring the wheels properly mounted flush. watched it happen all the time to the newbies from "automotive shop classes" that got taught "if they torque it with an impact its on straight"..

when snugging the nuts down just run them down till they hold the rim in place cross hatching as you go.. then do the same when you torque them down to spec. if the problem doesnt go away after would have the tires pulled off and check for the rims being out of round or just out of balance..

ohh also if yours has alloy outer and steelie inners and they put the steelie on the outer instead of the inner, swap them around... The Steel rim belongs on the inside to help balance the rear axle.. if it ends on the out with the alloy on the inside itll make it feel like your tires are way out of balance..
 
Old Nov 1, 2017 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Nothing Special
I'm surprised there was a winch on a '97 F-350. As far as I know, that didn't come from the factory until at least '99. People periodically ask about retrofitting a spare tire winch onto these trucks. It would sure make it easier if they had come that way from the factory.
I'm sorry about the confusion. I have been talking about 2 trucks: a '97 F350 and '07 F350. The '07 is the one with the bent rims. Maybe I should have posted this in the Super Duty forum. I own both.
 
Old Nov 1, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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I'm sorry about the confusion. I have been talking about 2 trucks: a '97 F350 and '07 F350. The '07 is the one with the bent rims. Maybe I should have posted this in the Super Duty forum. I own both.
your thread placement was good.. wheels and tires would have been the better place.. but your initial post was asking on the comparison between both models because of the alignment pin on the older truck and the newer one not having one..
 
Old Nov 1, 2017 | 02:07 PM
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Yours has a wench. That would make my problem not apply unless the wheel to bracket tie down nut is the same as mine.

I want a wench. Can you post a photo?
 
Old Nov 1, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Cummings Guy
Yours has a wench. That would make my problem not apply unless the wheel to bracket tie down nut is the same as mine.

I want a wench. Can you post a photo?
You cannot see it without lowering the spare tire so once my rim arrives, I will lower the spare and take a photo. I am going to put the spare in the bed of the truck when I take it to be mounted. I don't want the tire shop losing my spare tire key.

There is a hole in the bumper that you insert a specific key on the end of the jack handle into a tube that guides the rod into the corresponding key hole and then you crank the spare tire up or down. I think all of the Super Duty trucks have them. Makes changing a spare tire much easier. My '97 has the old eye bolt crank with the lug wrench set up. Oddly enough, I did not have a spare or mounting hardware with my '97 when I bought it so I ordered all of the spare tire hardware from lmctruck.com and I had to locate a steel DRW wheel and tire to mount up there. Total PITA to lower and raise the spare on that truck even though the parts are brand new. It seems like every truck I have ever bought is either missing the spare tire, the mounting hardware or both. Not sure why DRW owners feel the need to just discard all of it.

My '07 did not come with a spare tire key so I had to order that online after I took it to a dealer so they could use their set of master keys to figure out which part number I had to order. Why those things disappear, I have no idea. Keep the damn key in the truck! Once again, I am baffled by how often things like this are missing from used trucks.
 
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WHY are we still discussing this in a 87-97 forum and not a Superduty section?
 
Old Nov 1, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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WHY are we still discussing this in a 87-97 forum and not a Superduty section?
because the mods havent moved the thread yet?
 
Old Nov 1, 2017 | 04:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
WHY are we still discussing this in a 87-97 forum and not a Superduty section?
Why do you care? Feel free to just unsubscribe from this post if it bothers your delicate sensibilities regarding topic classification. Are you addicted to outrage?

I also have a vibration on my '97 so this topic is still appropriate for this forum. While it is not as severe as the '07, it is nonetheless germane to the topic.

Yes, I could have posted this in the "wheels and tires" forum but then there's the issue of front wheels and back wheels so maybe we need a separate forum for the front and the back.

I mean, where does it all end?
 
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Old Nov 1, 2017 | 09:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Lance990
Why do you care? Feel free to just unsubscribe from this post if it bothers your delicate sensibilities regarding topic classification. Are you addicted to outrage?

I also have a vibration on my '97 so this topic is still appropriate for this forum. While it is not as severe as the '07, it is nonetheless germane to the topic.

Yes, I could have posted this in the "wheels and tires" forum but then there's the issue of front wheels and back wheels so maybe we need a separate forum for the front and the back.

I mean, where does it all end?
Well if the truck in question is a SD then there would be the place to ask since it is indeed a SD, and not an OBS

OBS have indexing pins SD do not
OBS have drum brakes SD have disc
OBS have 16" rims 05+ SD have 17"
OBS have sterling 10.25 axles SD have dana 80s

Do you see where I am going?
You might as well posted in a semi forum
 
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did you also not bother to read they stated they also had a problem with their OBS?? i swear its no wonder so many of the other ford loving forums talk about how much of a joke FTE is.. you feel more inclined to attack someone than to actually come together and help someone.. you ignore half the post and focus on one minor thing just because it doesnt agree with you personally.. get over it.. if you dont want to help the OP because you deem half the post is about their 07 now makes all concerns only about it then leave and dont bother to help like the rest of the forum does..

personally i originally posted in here to help Lance with their issue.. not to just come in here and rip on where their thread was placed.. I could care less where someone posts to request help with an issue.. im going to help them regardless.. doesnt matter if its an old F100 or a 2120 flying hyperduty.. if theres something i can do to help them im going to try and do so..
 
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I mean, vibrations are a universal thing, you know? They exist in trucks of different makes models and years, in all types of machinery, the cosmic universe,etc. It's all connected, man! Don't get yer bowels in an uproar. You'll live longer!
 
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did you also not bother to read they stated they also had a problem with their OBS?? i swear its no wonder so many of the other ford loving forums talk about how much of a joke FTE is.. you feel more inclined to attack someone than to actually come together and help someone.. you ignore half the post and focus on one minor thing just because it doesnt agree with you personally.. get over it.. if you dont want to help the OP because you deem half the post is about their 07 now makes all concerns only about it then leave and dont bother to help like the rest of the forum does..

personally i originally posted in here to help Lance with their issue.. not to just come in here and rip on where their thread was placed.. I could care less where someone posts to request help with an issue.. im going to help them regardless.. doesnt matter if its an old F100 or a 2120 flying hyperduty.. if theres something i can do to help them im going to try and do so..


Thats funny because NOTHING was mentioned about the 97 other than the indexing pins, UNTILL I said this thread should be in the SD section.

And if you truly wanted to help, then you should also suggest this thread to be moved to the SD section where they may have had a similar issue with a dana 80, 17" wheels, disc brakes and no indexing pins
 
Old Nov 2, 2017 | 11:56 PM
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to which despite the OP stating they were also having problems with their 97 you followed up with the snarky reply about the differences between the two saying thats why it needed moved... which btw the in response to the part where you mentioned the OBS having drums and the SD having disc.. the SD actually have a hybrid disc drum setup.. while yes the primary is a disc setup the secondary internal brake is drums for the rear... and not all the SD (including the 05+ since you mentioned this year specifically) were only 17" and up.. many were still sold with 16" rims.. and to kill the last one.. ford also ran the Dana 80's in the OBS trucks in addition to the Sterling 10.25 axles.. Dana 80s have been used on ford trucks from factory since 1988.. while yes the sterling 10.25 started its run 4 years earlier in 85 and ended in 97.. depending on what the original owner ordered for their truck they could have either axle in the back..

as to thread placement i suggested more in the wheels and tires since it would have been the better spot dealing with both trucks... if your really wanting the thread moved feel free to pm a mod to assist with it.
 
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I have heard the rims called keyed rims. Don't know if someone made that up.

Move this thread to the squabbling douchebag forum.
 
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