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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 10:25 PM
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EGR question before purchase

I've been looking to purchase another truck recently. Most of the trucks I've seen have had the EGR deleted, but a couple have had the bulletproof cooler installed instead. In my mind, deleted is the better way to go as it stops the exhaust from entering the intake. I've never felt like that was a good design regardless of the quality. I recently found a truck with the bulletproof cooler added. It has a good known history, and I trust the truck and seller. But, I'm not sure about having the EGR intact.

My state does no emissions testing. The truck is a late 2004, so I don't believe there will be a problem with check lights. If I were to purchase this truck, would it be best to leave it as is, remove the bulletproof cooler altogether, or leave it and block it off. I suppose turning it off with a tuner might also be an option.

Also, how much effect on fuel mileage does the EGR have? Is it the same for both the factory and bulletproof designs?

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 01:06 PM
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MPG between deleted and stock will be minimal. You should be ok with an 04 not throwing the CEL, in fact some early 05's won't throw the light.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 02:04 PM
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Thanks for the reply. If I were to buy the truck with the bulletproof egr, is it worth the cost and trouble to pull it off? Or, is it enough of an improvement over the stock egr that it is not worth removing?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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If it has a BPD EGR cooler I'd leave it on there. It seems to be a good unit and I have not heard of many failures. Just be sure it's a BPD brand. Other knock off brands of "heavy duty" coolers have had some quality issues.

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 03:18 PM
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THe one I’ve looked at is a true BPD. If removal is an option, then which is the better option? Or is it just a matter of personal preference?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 03:36 PM
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The reason for the egr delete is for coolant leaks and reliability. I don't think it really affects performance much. If it already has a BPD cooler there is really no reason to delete imho.

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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 05:08 PM
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That makes me feel better about it. My biggest concern was sending exhaust back into the intake, sooting things up. Is this less of a concern with the bulletproof?
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 06:17 PM
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You are somtimes better off leaving it alone. Some of the delete kits end up leaking, welding up a cooler also has risk. If, someday you have to replace something (oil cooler) THEN is when I'd consider a change.

I've got the full BPD egr cooler and remote condenser mount oil cooler and the egr cooler IS bulletproof.
 
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Originally Posted by Rowdyrabbit
That makes me feel better about it. My biggest concern was sending exhaust back into the intake, sooting things up. Is this less of a concern with the bulletproof?
you might still get some soot but if the engine is operating correctly it should not be a concern. the passages are quite large and I have not heard of clogging being an issue like some other diesels. the only time it becomes an issue is when the cooler leaks and turns the soot into muck... then clogging is an issue.

but I am far from an expert here. I am deleted. when I pulled my engine i debated heavily on delete vs BPD cooler.

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Old Oct 25, 2017 | 10:24 AM
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Thanks for all of the replies. As I said, blowing sooty exhaust back into the intake seems like a bad idea, but there’s countless of them out there doing it. The replieshere make me feel quite a bit better about it.
 
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if you ever wanted to sell it, it could be a bonus that it's still street legal. There never was a great problem with EGR if the oil cooler was still okay, that's the big deal. The EGR failing is a symptom of the real problem.
 
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Old Oct 26, 2017 | 08:10 AM
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I thought the same as far as it being street legal. It’s actually fairly rare to see one around here for sale that hasn’t been deleted.

The oil cooler on this particular truck was recently replaced, so that shouldn’t be a concern. Actually, my main hang up on it is that it’s a late 2004 truck. I would rather have an 05 or newer for the suspension differences.
 
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Originally Posted by Misky6.0
You are somtimes better off leaving it alone. Some of the delete kits end up leaking, welding up a cooler also has risk. If, someday you have to replace something (oil cooler) THEN is when I'd consider a change.

I've got the full BPD egr cooler and remote condenser mount oil cooler and the egr cooler IS bulletproof.
The only delete kit I found that fits correctly and won't leak over time due to tearing the boot or the quality altogether is the Dieselsite EGR delete.

If you have a BPD setup, you don't have much to worry about and can turn it off with an SCT X4.
 
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