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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 07:01 PM
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Here is a good TECH write-up on the subject.

It will give the TSB No., replacement plug info and best tool info.

The Ford Three-Valve Broken Spark Plug Blues - Four Wheeler Magazine

Posted in How To: Engine on December 1, 2010
So a lot may have happened since then...
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 07:14 PM
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Here is a good TECH write-up on the subject.

It will give the TSB No., replacement plug info and best tool info.

The Ford Three-Valve Broken Spark Plug Blues - Four Wheeler Magazine



So a lot may have happened since then...




It looks like that article addresses the later 3V motors and the dreaded broken plugs they sometimes experienced, not the early 2V heads with only 4 plug threads that occasionally eject plugs.
 
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Old Oct 23, 2017 | 07:41 PM
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So what are you recommending for a remedy process for this?
Timesert, CalVan, Snap-On, and Lock'n'Stitch are all proven to be one time permanent repairs. Those are the ones that come to mind off the top of my head.

FWIW, you STILL have not identified the year of your engine. Yes, it matters.
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 03:24 AM
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It looks like that article addresses the later 3V motors and the dreaded broken plugs they sometimes experienced, not the early 2V heads with only 4 plug threads that occasionally eject plugs.
I stand corrected... THANX! ...

So the problem being discussed is after the first go-around? Model year would help...
 
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Old Oct 24, 2017 | 08:32 AM
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51457A timesert I believe is the thicker better insert to use that is fully threaded.

Done with 5553 timesert installation kit
 
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51457A timesert I believe is the thicker better insert to use that is fully threaded.
The 51457A is aluminum instead of steel (51459) as well as having full internal threads which really isn't an issue anyway on the 2V Tritons.

The OD, ID, and length OA are the same for both inserts.
 
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
I stand corrected... THANX! ...

So the problem being discussed is after the first go-around? Model year would help...
It helps that since we're so familiar with the Ex, we already know Ford never put a 3V 5.4L or 6.8L engine in the Excursion, and that all the gas engines are 2V, so we already know which spark plug problem plagues the gassers, so model year isn't necessary to post.

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Originally Posted by Snowseeker
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Post #141

51457A timesert I believe is the thicker better insert to use that is fully threaded.

Done with 5553 timesert installation kit
Originally Posted by projectSHO89
The 51457A is aluminum instead of steel (51459) as well as having full internal threads which really isn't an issue anyway on the 2V Tritons.

The OD, ID, and length OA are the same for both inserts.
Reps to both for the help.

Stewart
 
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Post #141

51457A timesert I believe is the thicker better insert to use that is fully threaded.

Done with 5553 timesert installation kit
There you are; I assume you saw my PM. I knew that I should have just gone green when you sold it. Anyway, that is the kit that I ended up ordering to remedy!
 
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Timesert, CalVan, Snap-On, and Lock'n'Stitch are all proven to be one time permanent repairs. Those are the ones that come to mind off the top of my head.

FWIW, you STILL have not identified the year of your engine. Yes, it matters.
5/00 is truck mfg date
 
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Old Oct 26, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by projectSHO89
The 51457A is aluminum instead of steel (51459) as well as having full internal threads which really isn't an issue anyway on the 2V Tritons.

The OD, ID, and length OA are the same for both inserts.

Yes, the one on the right. Aluminum on aluminum in a heat cycling environment works well.

I went for the full thread insert on purpose.

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Question SOMEBODY PLEASE HELP ME HERE

I am not really all that familiar or understand what is going on here so if someone could take my hand and point...

The 3V engines had the problem of OEM plug removal and the 2V (as being discussed here) had the problem of plug ejection due to the spark plug threads being too short, correct?

I dropped out about ten years ago and missed a lot of TECH.
 
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The 3V engines also spit out plugs.
 
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Originally Posted by KULTULZ
I am not really all that familiar or understand what is going on here so if someone could take my hand and point...

The 3V engines had the problem of OEM plug removal and the 2V (as being discussed here) had the problem of plug ejection due to the spark plug threads being too short, correct?
Basically, yes.

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