Starter Install Questions
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Starter Install Questions
I have to replace the starter in my 1960 F100 with the 223. I have never done this type of starter with the seperate gear. I bought both the starter and the seperate gear drive but have not found much information on the replacment process. I usually like to have somewhat of instruction before I tackle something i've never done. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
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I think you're talking about the Bendix drive? Secured by a pin through armature shaft. A vise works good for this. It's hard to explain, but it helps if you've eaten yer Wheaties. Shop manual explains it. Press and twist the starter drive to expose the pin and drive it out. Installation is the reverse. There's other methods using different tools, welding type vise grips. Search "bendix starter drive replacement" on YT and the web. More than one way to skin a cat.
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I have to replace the starter in my 1960 F100 with the 223. I have never done this type of starter with the seperate gear. I bought both the starter and the seperate gear drive but have not found much information on the replacment process. I usually like to have somewhat of instruction before I tackle something i've never done. Can anyone point me in the right direction?
The Bendix drive has to be unwound by hand to access the roll pin. Then the Bendix has to be wound back up by hand (which takes muscle).
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The HUGE coil spring loaded inertia starter drive is referred to as Bendix, because that's who made it.
I use the term Bendix to differentiate this inertia drive from the much smaller starter drive used beginning in the mid 1960's (see 11350 below).
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Drive Assy-Starter Motor
Sometimes, it's necessary to deviate from the norm (Ford terminology) when describing parts.
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Drive Assy-Starter Motor
Sometimes, it's necessary to deviate from the norm (Ford terminology) when describing parts.
Drive Assy-Starter Motor
Sometimes, it's necessary to deviate from the norm (Ford terminology) when describing parts.
I have always referred to this type as Bendix too (and the cheby style as a starter drive).
I had to look in my service manual, the Delco type is referred to only as "over running clutch" in the blow up and the Ford style is labeled Folo-Thru starter drive.
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Haha, good one.
I have always referred to this type as Bendix too (and the cheby style as a starter drive).
I had to look in my service manual, the Delco type is referred to only as "over running clutch" in the blow up and the Ford style is labeled Folo-Thru starter drive.
I must save/convert another one. ..
Using the word BENDIX is blasphemy.
To repent you must stand in the MOTORCRAFT aisle in WallyWorld and denounce the fallen angel DELCO-MORON...
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C'mon now. Delco was founded by Charles Kettering, who held 186 patents. The guy was a frigging genius. In fact he invented the automobile electric starter.
He was in all kinds of stuff in design and engineering for decades after that. My dad said he met him just after the war. The US Navy was messing around with captured U boats and they tried to retrofit a snorkel on USN submarines. It wasn't working very well and they sent Kettering out for his expertise.
He was in all kinds of stuff in design and engineering for decades after that. My dad said he met him just after the war. The US Navy was messing around with captured U boats and they tried to retrofit a snorkel on USN submarines. It wasn't working very well and they sent Kettering out for his expertise.
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Much of our mis use of terms comes from the old people who never changed. Any tissue that comes in a box is a Kleenex. I remember 60s cars that still had a "gen" light in the dash although they were clearly factory equipped with an alternator. Where does it stop. My grandma called any refrigerator a Frigidaire until the day she died.
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C'mon now. Delco was founded by Charles Kettering, who held 186 patents. The guy was a frigging genius. In fact he invented the automobile electric starter.
He was in all kinds of stuff in design and engineering for decades after that. My dad said he met him just after the war. The US Navy was messing around with captured U boats and they tried to retrofit a snorkel on USN submarines. It wasn't working very well and they sent Kettering out for his expertise.
He was in all kinds of stuff in design and engineering for decades after that. My dad said he met him just after the war. The US Navy was messing around with captured U boats and they tried to retrofit a snorkel on USN submarines. It wasn't working very well and they sent Kettering out for his expertise.
So, Durant purchased DELCO, got Kettering along with it.
Durant wanted to hire Alfred Sloane, prexy of Hyatt Roller Bearing, but Sloane wasn't interested. So, Durant bought Hyatt, got Sloane along with it.
When Durant was ousted from GM in 1920 (for the 2nd and last time), Sloane took over as prexy.
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Well that's one way to do it I guess.
My dad always called it "the icebox", he passed in 2012. At the advice of his coach he delivered ice to homes in the summer between high school football seasons. Apartment buildings with lots of steps, good for leg strength hauling 50 pound blocks up ten flights of stairs all day.
My dad always called it "the icebox", he passed in 2012. At the advice of his coach he delivered ice to homes in the summer between high school football seasons. Apartment buildings with lots of steps, good for leg strength hauling 50 pound blocks up ten flights of stairs all day.