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Old 10-12-2017, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Tom
That wasn't my point. Someone came on here asking a technical question looking for answers. He wasn't looking for an inquisition on his employment or driving habits.
Yes, I knew that wasn`t your point hence the reason I phrased my initial reply in a couple of questions to the OP and said questions were asked because of his user name.

It would be irresponsible and i`m sure illegal for a law enforcement officer to ask how to do any modifications to a vehicle that`s provide to him by his superiors and more importantly, you and I, the tax payers to make it go faster than what it was engineered and designed to do for said law enforcement agency.

I apologize for my initial reply Tom/Moderator.

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Old 10-12-2017, 02:12 PM
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Actually I do not drive one of these Fords, I am still in my 10 year old vehicle. Next spring I will be getting a Ford to replace what I am driving now. The guys in the Fords claim they get 98 mph out of them, but they could be exaggerating their claim. It may be 105.
I am supervisor to the guys, and because of my mechanical background the agency head has been asking me if there is a way to get more speed out of the vehicles. I am second in command, so modifications are not an issue where we are at, within reason.
I am aware of the dangers of driving fast. We have extensive and ongoing training on emergency vehicle operations. The physics of the vehicle change at higher speeds. The handling is greatly effected, longer stopping distance, shorter reaction distances, and a big risk of pushing the mechanical limits of the machines. Also a danger is other peoples perception of speed. People will misjudge the speed of oncoming vehicles and pull out in front of you. Because of the dangers we typically don't push to the limits of the vehicles speed, but there are rare occasions that just a little more is needed!
Our agency head always says if the speedometer goes to 120 then the vehicle should do 120!
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:38 PM
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Our agency head always says if the speedometer goes to 120 then the vehicle should do 120!
That's the one I agree with!!
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:46 PM
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The good ole days when you could "peg" a speedometer.
 
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The good ole days when you could "peg" a speedometer.
You mean when speedo's maxed at 85?? 😂
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 02:55 PM
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You mean when speedo's maxed at 85?? 😂
I was thinking of the 60's and 70's, I forgot about the 80's.
 
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I cannot say that I ever see a reason for anybody to drive 100 mph but if you do it with no flashing lights or sirens you're a murder/suicide waiting to happen.
 
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I cannot say that I ever see a reason for anybody to drive 100 mph but if you do it with no flashing lights or sirens you're a murder/suicide waiting to happen.

Have you ever tried to catch up to a vehicle that was doing 100 mph? You can't do it if your vehicle will only do 98 mph.

And yes code 3 is the proper response, but each agency has its own policies and procedures.
 
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Old 10-12-2017, 11:50 PM
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Even trying to catch a vehicle running 85, unless they back down it will take a couple of miles to catch them even at 105! I do miss the old days of the Crown Vics. New those things would hit a top speed of anywhere from 135 to 140. I heard of a few that would hit 150, but who knows if those stories were true. We looked at switching to Chargers when we switched from SUV's to pickups. We were sold on the charger, but the day I finalized the order we had snow. I looked outside at 6 inches of snow and ordered a pickup!
It is not often that we have to run over 100 mph. Most of the time 90 or 95 will get a guy there just as fast by the time you slow down to navigate traffic. Your looking at 3 to 4 minute difference typically. But our area of patrol is pretty large. Our area is 25 miles x 25 miles, so over 600 square miles. Working one guy per shift, sometimes it is a long long drive between calls!
I don't know if we will install programmers to override the speed limits or not. That will get expensive. I was hoping that someone would say that with my ELM device and Forescan I would be able to just log on and raise the speed limits to maybe 115.
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:14 AM
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Just out of curiosity, which engines do your current F150s have?
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 06:24 AM
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Originally Posted by deputydog03
I would be able to just log on and raise the speed limits to maybe 115.
Is that fast enough to be above the driveshaft critical speed? I don't know, but you should know that before raising the speed limiter. Who's liable if it is above the critical speed and a driveshaft fails at 110 MPH? The agency that raised the limiter? The person that raised the limiter? Both?

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We were sold on the charger, but the day I finalized the order we had snow. I looked outside at 6 inches of snow and ordered a pickup!
Maybe an AWD Ford Police Interceptor would have been a better choice. They are a lot faster than 115 MPH and do pretty well in the snow with AWD.
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 09:40 AM
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Man, lots of folk on here are not interested in answering the questions...but sure like to criticize 'why' OP is asking.

I can't answer how to modify the current vehicles, except I'm sure a tuner would do it.
Being an agency, you can contact Ford Fleet and possibly the Ford engineering department to discuss your specific concerns. I've spoken to both Dodge and Chevy engineers in the past and they were very professional and open to discussions.

Also, going forward, here is a link to the vehicles with police packages that surely have higher speed allowances: Fleet Showroom | fleet.ford.com
 
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
Is that fast enough to be above the driveshaft critical speed? I don't know, but you should know that before raising the speed limiter. Who's liable if it is above the critical speed and a driveshaft fails at 110 MPH? The agency that raised the limiter? The person that raised the limiter? Both?


Maybe an AWD Ford Police Interceptor would have been a better choice. They are a lot faster than 115 MPH and do pretty well in the snow with AWD.

AWD or not, i dont think a Ford Taurus will perform well in 6+" of snow.
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:30 AM
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Ah yes, Back in the dumb old days, 1967 Mustang coupe slightly massaged 289, radar locked by Texas DPS 136 mph. I won the bet though, PS, I was also a reserve deputy sherriff thanks to my cousin, who was Sherriff.
 
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Old 10-13-2017, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DevilDog556
AWD or not, i dont think a Ford Taurus will perform well in 6+" of snow.
I had both a 2005and 2008 AWD Taurus and they performed very well in the snow. My wife was a hospice nurse that visited patient's homes. She went in and out of places that really surprised me that it went in and out of. And she never got stuck.

Note: At that time I lived in Michigan, not Florida.
 


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