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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 12:40 PM
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Help identifying truck frame

Can someone help identify this truck frame or give me help on how to identify it? I’ve searched for a frame vin and can’t find anything. Tried cleaning up the spots where I know they should be and still nothing. All I know is it’s a 2wd f100 frame... looking to find year so I can sell it! Can get more pics of needed
 
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 02:24 PM
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The VIN should be stamped into the passenger side rail under where the alternator would be, and also a little further back, under the cab.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 02:49 PM
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Originally Posted by meangreen92
The VIN should be stamped into the passenger side rail under where the alternator would be, and also a little further back, under the cab.
I should’ve been more clear, I’ve checked the known location of frame vins and haven’t been able to find any, tried cleaning the frame too no avail. Looking for someway to identify this frame by something like length, width cross member or steering setup etc, like how you can tell a Highboy frame because he rear width is different.
 
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 03:02 PM
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Or maybe someone like number dummy could tell me if these numbers off the steering box can correlate to a year range?

Also here are the engine perches, I don’t know what motor they go to tho I’m sure someone recognizes them?

I’m grasping for straws here lol I’m needing to get this sold!
 
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 03:29 PM
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Highboys came in 4wd only. Rear tank so 77? to 79. But the tank has a EEC port on top so maybe 78/79.

Without a title maybe $200? Probably/maybe even less? In pic #3 it looks to have a carrier bearing on the d/s on one cross member, so could it be a Super Cab frame?
 
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Highboys came in 4wd only. Rear tank so 77? to 79. But the tank has a EEC port on top so maybe 78/79.

Without a title maybe $200? Probably/maybe even less? In pic #3 it looks to have a carrier bearing on the d/s on one cross member, so could it be a Super Cab frame?
Yeah I know it’s not a Highboy just laying out an example of how I know sometimes there are quirks to finding the year or year range for frames

I got it from grinnergetter and he knew it was an f100 frame but didn’t know the year. So that’s the extent of my knowledge and it’s just becoming a part of the backyard right now... which the wife doesn’t love lol
 
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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 03:55 PM
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I can tell by the way the leaves have fallen on it, from north to south, that it is a '79.

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Old Oct 2, 2017 | 04:27 PM
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Since the only unique and official ID for a 73-79 vehicle is the VIN as found stamped on the passenger side of the frame, it would be difficult to sell the frame w/o a VIN. State DMVs have access to a database of VINs with related registration data. Prospective buyers who plan to build up a dent side truck from such a frame will want to assure themselves that the VIN isn't associated with a problematic (e.g. stolen) vehicle.
The VIN has to be there but some wire brushing may be needed to reveal it. Having the VIN will greatly expand your potential market as well as answering many of the questions posed above via decoding. It will be worth the effort.
 
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Originally Posted by flowney
Since the only unique and official ID for a 73-79 vehicle is the VIN as found stamped on the passenger side of the frame, it would be difficult to sell the frame w/o a VIN. State DMVs have access to a database of VINs with related registration data. Prospective buyers who plan to build up a dent side truck from such a frame will want to assure themselves that the VIN isn't associated with a problematic (e.g. stolen) vehicle.
The VIN has to be there but some wire brushing may be needed to reveal it. Having the VIN will greatly expand your potential market as well as answering many of the questions posed above via decoding. It will be worth the effort.
I’ve wire wheeled the top parts where a vin should be and didn’t see, I’ll check my Highboy inside frame vin and check that location on the frame to wire wheel it.

I know it’s rough to sell without a vin but I’m looking for the guy who’s wanting to build a mud toy or someone who needs good frame parts for their truck or someone who doesn’t care to fill out some extra paperwork to get a new vin, the truck is old enough in Indiana to do so.
 
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Originally Posted by fordguy2100
becoming a part of the backyard right now... which the wife doesn't love lol
Show this pic to the wife and tell her it could always be worse...lol

That frame with the race car chassis is one of my next "projects".
 
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 01:42 AM
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Steering box looks like a '79.
The gear box number is a '77, but any given number Ford part could have been used for several years. The top cap/cover though is marked with a "D9" which would have made it a '79 model year upgrade part perhaps?

At least that's how I see it. Can't tell you anything from looking at the frame details myself.
I wonder if it could be an early '80 model year? Or a late '79 build where they might have changed the location of the VIN locations? No idea if Ford did that, but just thinking out loud.
Which gets annoyingly in he way of good thinking sometimes!

Good luck.

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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 06:30 AM
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If you have a short box frame I'm looking for one. Sounds like your in IN so your not to far away from me either. Let me know.

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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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2 piece drive shaft. You can measure from the the centre of the king pins to the center of the rear spring that will tell you the wheel base.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 10:11 AM
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By the front horns it looks like a 78/79.

I used to run rebuilt cars for a used car dealer to get reinspected by the state DOT. I never saw them look at the frame VIN when we rebuilt trucks. I'm doing a frame swap on a dodge and not even worrying about it. As long as the door jamb tag is good they have no reason to dig deeper. From what I've seen they get more lenient with older vehicles, realizing they might have had major components replaced to keep them going. I paid $300 for a bare frame. I sold a complete, rolling, 6"lift '78 4x4 f150 frame for $600. That's a $200 frame imo, I'd start around 5-600.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 77&79F250
Highboys came in 4wd only. Rear tank so 77? to 79. But the tank has a EEC port on top so maybe 78/79.
No such thing as a fuel tank w/an EEC port.
No truck of this vintage has EEC, because this an abbreviation for the Electronic Engine Control system that has an on-board computer.

The only 1970's vehicles with EEC were 1979 LTD/Grand Marquis with 351W's sold new in CA

What you are actually referring to is the Evaporative Emission system.

The Evaporative Emission system is abbreviated Evap/Em and since you don't live in CA or probably don't have experience with CA trucks, Evap/Em was mandatory in sold new in CA 1970/72 F100's, 1973/79 F100/350's.

And like years of Passenger Cars, Bronco's and Econolines.

It was a real PITA to find a gas cap for 1969/74 Econolines with Evap/Em when they were lost, because Ford obsoleted the damn thing within a few years.
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Frame ID: Ford stamped an ID number on the right outer frame rail about a foot from the front of it.

You cannot go by numbers on steering gears to ID the truck and/or the frame, since the same steering gears were used in F100/350's.

This is a 2WD frame since it has front engine supports aka towers/stands/perches.

Not only do Highboys have the 33 1/2" width between the inner frame rails behind the cab, but so do some F350's. There were no F350's with 4WD until 1979.
 
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