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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 02:58 PM
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2.7L Oil Use

I'm just curious what some of you are seeing for oil use on your 2.7s. My first oil change was at 4700, and I don't think I even burned 1/4 qt. I just did my second this morning at 6300 (since the last change) and it looks like I burned through maybe 3/4 qt. Yes, I let the oil all drain out on both oil changes, probably 30min, since that's how long it takes me to get the little o-ring on the filter housing.

Just curious what the rest of you are seeing on oil use.
 
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Old Sep 30, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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First change at 5,000, second at 12,000 and currently at 13,000. According to the dipstick, no oil used.
 
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Old Oct 3, 2017 | 08:59 PM
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The 2.7 has known issues with oil consumption/smoke from the tailpipe. I've only seen two with the issue so far. If you ever see blue smoke from the pipe in conjunction with the check engine light coming on you HAVE to take it to a dealer. The current fix is (depending on symptoms) replaced BOTH cylinder heads or replace the entire long block.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2017 | 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Da_Lariat_Chariot
The 2.7 has known issues with oil consumption/smoke from the tailpipe. I've only seen two with the issue so far. If you ever see blue smoke from the pipe in conjunction with the check engine light coming on you HAVE to take it to a dealer. The current fix is (depending on symptoms) replaced BOTH cylinder heads or replace the entire long block.
Ford has been quiet on what has caused the 2.7 engine issue. My understanding after reading a lot on this, is some engines are having issues with valve guides. No information on if this is a design issue, a supplier issue, an assembly issue, etc... It affects a small percentage in a certain build range. Some of the issues I have read about that were rough idle, smoke on start up, consumption of oil, (any use of oil from small amounts to large volumes) low oil pressure lights on dash.

This is interesting from an assembly issue because all the 2.7 engines are put together in Lima. My truck is in the middle of the TSB range but I have experienced none of these issues. I haven't met a person yet with a 2.7 that has had these issues. I've read on the forums about it and there has been enough of them for Ford to have issued a TSB on the engine but it's been quiet as a church mouse from Ford or even the dealerships I've talked to about it.

Diagnostic trouble codes can be present even if the check engine light is not on so check with the dealer if you are using any oil. I haven't used a drop as far as I can tell in over 21k miles. Good luck to you.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2017 | 12:58 PM
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I was aware of that blue smoke issue. I haven't seen that on mine (I'm a FEB16 build, so am just out of the range on the TSB). I'm not super concerned about 1/2-3/4 qt in 6300 miles. While it's maybe a little high for a new engine, I don't think I should be concerned (unless I see other signs).

I 'm mostly trying to get a read on what others are seeing as "normal" consumption in the 2.7 to see where I fall in that. Or maybe I'll find out that's not "normal" at all. I am already curious though, on what I'll see after my next oil change.
 
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Old Oct 4, 2017 | 04:22 PM
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I know of half a dozen or so friends & acquaintances that have the 2.7L EB, and none have this issue.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 11:43 AM
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Make sure your engine oil fill cap is off and the oil filter is removed before draining the crankcase.

Also, drain the oil when the engine is hot. Be careful. We don't need you scalding your face off. But engine oil, on ALL of them, should be drained when the motor is at operating temperature. In theory. Just be careful. It WILL hurt you. I drain mine at a little less than operating temperature or pay the guys at Valvoline to change it for me. I always make sure it's nice and toastie before I pull in.

Did you use the same oil and noticed the difference in the amount? Were the weather conditions the same (winter, Summer)?

I've noticed on mine that it likes to use more oil when the oil starts to get 'dirty'. Don't know why, it just seems that way.

So if you're changing at 6,000 miles try checking it at 5,000 miles for capacity. You might be using it all in that last 500-1,000 miles.

Keep in mind, the oil might be good for 15,000 miles according to the maker but it still gets dirty. And when it gets dirty, it's time to change it.

3/4 of a quart at 6,300 miles is a little much but it's not enough to get worked up about unless it gets worse.

If you want to, let your Dealer know. Get it on the record.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 12:12 PM
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Originally Posted by The Big Tow

Did you use the same oil and noticed the difference in the amount? Were the weather conditions the same (winter, Summer)?

I've noticed on mine that it likes to use more oil when the oil starts to get 'dirty'. Don't know why, it just seems that way.

So if you're changing at 6,000 miles try checking it at 5,000 miles for capacity. You might be using it all in that last 500-1,000 miles.
First change was from whatever the factory uses to Mobil 1. This last change was Mobil 1 to Mobil 1 extended life, so I suppose their could be a difference with the oil types, though I can't see it being that much.

The only thing I did notice between the first and second change was that the oil life monitor went down way faster on the second batch of oil. It didn't move much early on, but at the time of the oil change, it read 18%. On the first change, admittedly 1600 miles earlier, it was reading ~40%.

I did have significantly more stop and go, in town miles on change #2 than I did on change #1.
 
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Old Oct 5, 2017 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by benwalt
First change was from whatever the factory uses to Mobil 1. This last change was Mobil 1 to Mobil 1 extended life, so I suppose their could be a difference with the oil types, though I can't see it being that much.

The only thing I did notice between the first and second change was that the oil life monitor went down way faster on the second batch of oil. It didn't move much early on, but at the time of the oil change, it read 18%. On the first change, admittedly 1600 miles earlier, it was reading ~40%.

I did have significantly more stop and go, in town miles on change #2 than I did on change #1.
I'd monitor it.

It could be that your engine liked the Factory Oil better than it did the Group III synthetic in the regular Mobil 1.

I believe the Mobil 1 X-Life is a Group IV oil. See how that one works out.

Turbo Chargers are....... Interesting.

As far as the Oil Life monitor, it's a pretty 'dumb' system AFAIK. It only measure time, miles and towing. I don't see how it can measure much else.

I could be wrong on that. Wouldn't surprise me. Maybe it can measure the number of starts, stop and go driving, etc.

interesting
 
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Old Oct 10, 2017 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by benwalt
First change was from whatever the factory uses to Mobil 1. This last change was Mobil 1 to Mobil 1 extended life, so I suppose their could be a difference with the oil types, though I can't see it being that much.

The only thing I did notice between the first and second change was that the oil life monitor went down way faster on the second batch of oil. It didn't move much early on, but at the time of the oil change, it read 18%. On the first change, admittedly 1600 miles earlier, it was reading ~40%.

I did have significantly more stop and go, in town miles on change #2 than I did on change #1.
I don't want to be "that guy" but even though Mobil makes great oil and most likely is not causing any problems I would keep using Motorcraft - at least until your warranty is up. The Ford tech hotline wanted to know where/when the truck was serviced, mileage and what type of oil was used, in regards to the more recent 2.7L I diagnosed that got a new block. I'm not saying that non-OEM oil would cause these problems but if something goes out under warranty the field inspectors will look at EVERYTHING - and yes that includes what oil you used.
 
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Old Oct 13, 2017 | 07:14 AM
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So if you're changing at 6,000 miles try checking it at 5,000 miles for capacity. You might be using it all in that last 500-1,000 miles.[/QUOTE]


This was the case with a 2012 Forester i owned. Dip stick read full every 1000 miles untill 6000 and suddenly a quart was gone.
 
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Unknown oil consumption

I’ve noticed about every 1,000 miles I’ve been showing a quart low. I’m using full synthetic. Just recently after a 1,200mi trip I checked my levels and was a quart and a half low. No blue smoke or misfire.
mileage is at 140k.
 
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