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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieLed
What it looks like to me is a stock Ford Mustang II front end with some sort of GM R&P that was added. Upper and lower a-arms definitely look to be FOMOCO parts...crossmember may or may not be stock Ford.
You may be correct, it's been 30 years since I put a Mustang 2 in my 46 Ford sedan so I may have forgot what it looked like. But this crossmember looks massive compared to what I remembered the M2 was. I will check for Ford part numbers on the Lower control arms, I didn't see any Ford numbers on the upper control arm. Thanks again.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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If it's just the hoses that are leaking ,remove them and bring them to a good hydraulics shop ,they should be able to make you up some new ones .
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 02:42 PM
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Hoses are the initial concern

Originally Posted by Ct70
If it's just the hoses that are leaking ,remove them and bring them to a good hydraulics shop ,they should be able to make you up some new ones .
Thanks CT70, that's a good idea for the hoses. I know I will also need brake pads and rotors eventually so I thought if I could identify the suspension parts it would lead me to the brake caliper usage (they're Bendix) and to the pads and rotors. They swaybar links are contacting the coil springs so I'm just trying to sort it all out.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 05:27 PM
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After looking at these pic more closely.

Here is what i have come up with.

The spindle, brake caliper and I assume rotor are Ford car parts from the 70's
This would make sense as the large Ford cars in that era used the 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern.
The caliper is the 70's Ford standard full frame car caliper with upper retaining bar and bolt, no other manufacturer used this set up that i'm aware of.

The suspension is from an application where the K member bolts to the chassis It appears that this K member has been welded to the existing frame and the bolt holes that fixed it to the chassis in the original application are plainly visible.

Hopefully it narrows it down.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 06:02 PM
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Those control arms are not mustang 2,The stock lowers only had one pivot bolt and used a strut rod.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
After looking at these pic more closely.

Here is what i have come up with.

The spindle, brake caliper and I assume rotor are Ford car parts from the 70's
This would make sense as the large Ford cars in that era used the 5 on 5.5" bolt pattern.
The caliper is the 70's Ford standard full frame car caliper with upper retaining bar and bolt, no other manufacturer used this set up that i'm aware of.

The suspension is from an application where the K member bolts to the chassis It appears that this K member has been welded to the existing frame and the bolt holes that fixed it to the chassis in the original application are plainly visible.

Hopefully it narrows it down.
This is some great information. You have narrowed down my search big time. I'll start with a mid 70's LTD/Merc for the spindle and brake parts. Is it possible that Ford would have used a 70's Saginaw power rack for steering? I didn't see any Ford oval and Ford part number on it. The engine is an early 302 1968 casting code, but I believe the trans is an 1989 casting code. Either way, you have provided some great information, thank you so much for your time.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by CharlieLed
What it looks like to me is a stock Ford Mustang II front end with some sort of GM R&P that was added. Upper and lower a-arms definitely look to be FOMOCO parts...crossmember may or may not be stock Ford.
TWO types of Mustang II P/S racks. Upper pic: 1974/76 .. Lower pic: 1977/78.

 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by 56 George
This is some great information. You have narrowed down my search big time. I'll start with a mid 70's LTD/Merc for the spindle and brake parts. Is it possible that Ford would have used a 70's Saginaw power rack for steering? I didn't see any Ford oval and Ford part number on it. The engine is an early 302 1968 casting code, but I believe the trans is an 1989 casting code. Either way, you have provided some great information, thank you so much for your time.
It's my best guess on what I can see in the pics.

All that I know for certain is the brake calipers are Ford (likely the spindles too) and the rack is definitely a Saginaw, the rest is a best guess. I would check to see if the it is an actual separate K Member or if the whole frame has been spliced in to the truck.

Who ever did it was creative and did some work to get it in there. It may be an amalgamation of parts also that would just make the installer that much more creative.

Who knows when this was done or what was used exactly, to bad it was not documented and included with the truck.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Last chance 53
Those control arms are not mustang 2,The stock lowers only had one pivot bolt and used a strut rod.
Good catch, thanks for looking and commenting.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by matthewq4b
It's my best guess on what I can see in the pics.

All that I know for certain is the brake calipers are Ford (likely the spindles too) and the rack is definitely a Saginaw, the rest is a best guess. I would check to see if the it is an actual separate K Member or if the whole frame has been spliced in to the truck.

Who ever did it was creative and did some work to get it in there. It may be an amalgamation of parts also that would just make the installer that much more creative.

Who knows when this was done or what was used exactly, to bad it was not documented and included with the truck.
The guy I bought it from said he only had it 8 months. I tried to get info about the previous owner or builder but he told me he though the builder has passed. The restoration is an older one but I think it was a pretty good one when new. I'm considering just getting rid of the current IFS and putting in a Heidts Kit or something similar. The rear will be fine it has an old 9", it just needs to be lowered about 4 inches. I think I can live with the paint for a couple years so maybe a new IFS and trans will do the trick for a while. Thanks again for the help. At least now I can get the parts I need until I can decide which way to go on the IFS.
 
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Old Sep 26, 2017 | 08:41 PM
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Thanks for the illustration sheets

Do you happen to have one that includes the brake caliper, I'm looking for the casting number in the picture. It's a Bendix caliper, I know Ford used a lot of Bendix calipers, it would be nice to know the application was for this casting number.
 
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Well that did it. I nailed it and you wont believe what it is. And Ford was NOT the only one to use that style of brake caliper. It was also used by the other American manufacturer that everyone forgets about (including me) from a car that has been forgotten about.

The Front suspension is from an AMC Pacer.

Here is pic op the Pacer front suspension and K member





Here is the Pacers rack and Pinion unit

1975 AMERICAN MOTORS PACER 4.2L 258cid L6 Rack and Pinion Complete Unit | RockAuto

I think today the front suspension is more rare than your truck lol
 
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 12:31 AM
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After Finding this I did some digging on the web and it appears it was a popular swap back in the day, which makes sense it is about the same track width as older trucks and cars and it is a fully contained unit and one of the first North American cars that used Rack and pinion.

A few pics I grabbed off the web of conversions utilizing the Pacer K Member and suspension for swaps.










 
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Old Sep 27, 2017 | 09:09 AM
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Wow!!! You really did nail it

Originally Posted by matthewq4b
Well that did it. I nailed it and you wont believe what it is. And Ford was NOT the only one to use that style of brake caliper. It was also used by the other American manufacturer that everyone forgets about (including me) from a car that has been forgotten about.

The Front suspension is from an AMC Pacer.

Here is pic op the Pacer front suspension and K member





Here is the Pacers rack and Pinion unit

1975 AMERICAN MOTORS PACER 4.2L 258cid L6 Rack and Pinion Complete Unit | RockAuto

I think today the front suspension is more rare than your truck lol
All I can say is Wow!!! I would have never thought to go down the AMC road. After reading this post I went to the garage to look at everything again and it all lines up perfectly. I can't tell you how much I appreciate your help. At least now I know I can drive it for a while and get whatever parts I might need, after I get my hoses fixed. Joining this site was the best thing I could have done and it's people like you that make the site what it is. Hopefully I can return the favor someday. AMC Pacer...LOL...Now what do I do? I would sure like to know how the caliper pic lead you to AMC Pacer, I couldn't find anything with that number.
 
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