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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 11:52 AM
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2018 changes???????????????

Yesterday I went over to Bullhead City, AZ/Laughlin, NV. At the bottom of "Davis Dam Hill" (Official SAE tow test site) there were about 5 or 6 new Super Duties hooked to various trailers sitting at the base of the hill, looked ready to do some pull testing. Just got me to thinking that just maybe some changes are in the wind. If there are no changes, I would think they wouldn't need to be testing anything. Does anyone KNOW anything yet???? Just curious.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 12:00 PM
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Since the 2017 is a new model year for the Super Duty trucks I wouldn't expect many changes. It will be interesting to see what changes if any has been made.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 12:08 PM
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They could very well be testing the 2020 model with upgraded power and 10 speed tranny.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 12:21 PM
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Not necessarily related, but I did find it interesting that power ratings were excluded from the 2018 SD Order Guide.

Having said that, I also find it hard to believe they would be conducting 2018 testing right now. That's a bit late.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 01:05 PM
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I'd go with Tom on this one. 10 speed and power bump testing for the 2019 or 2020. As to the TBD, I think all early model year order guides have those placeholders but I guess anything is possible.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 01:35 PM
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It's also possible a competitor had the Super Duty trucks for benchmark testing...
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 01:59 PM
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It's also possible a competitor had the Super Duty trucks for benchmark testing...
Well, there was at least one, a chassis cab w/ a bed on it that had "Ford Motor Company" on the door. So it would be doubtful that it was a competitor.

I wish I would have had the time to just stop and watch what they were doing!!
 

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Well, there was at least one, a chassis cab w/ a bed on it that had "Ford Motor Company" on the door. So it would be doubtful that it was a competitor.
Fair enough, that info wasn't initially provided.

So in this case, Ford is likely looking to boost tow ratings and or power ratings. RAM now has a factory 5th wheel with a 30k rating; Ford does not. RAM is also +5 on torque. Not meaningful in real life, but meaningful in marketing.

Likely the 2019 GM HD trucks will have more power and torque than 445/910.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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I would guess that the largest change would be a larger price.
 
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Old Sep 21, 2017 | 02:41 PM
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I'm curious to see if there are any changes to the cooled seats, after all the negative comments I've seen about them on the 2015-2017 models.
 
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I agree with transmission testing, however, it seems like any type of powertrain testing by Ford is usually done with masked prototypes. The only times Ford seems to avoid masking material is a day or so before the release of a new model year vehicle, like the RC/LB DRW '17 that was testing a few days before the '17s were announced.

Even with already-existing vehicles like the Ranger and Everest overseas, Ford still uses heavy camouflage on those vehicles, which are currently being used for powertrain testing in the desert.

I still believe powertrain testing is being done, but the lack of camo or masking has me confused.
 
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Well, if the body was going to be the same and only the trans/power bump being the change for 2019, then camo wouldn't be necessary, no?
 
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Originally Posted by Christian's1988Ford
I agree with transmission testing, however, it seems like any type of powertrain testing by Ford is usually done with masked prototypes. The only times Ford seems to avoid masking material is a day or so before the release of a new model year vehicle, like the RC/LB DRW '17 that was testing a few days before the '17s were announced.

Even with already-existing vehicles like the Ranger and Everest overseas, Ford still uses heavy camouflage on those vehicles, which are currently being used for powertrain testing in the desert.

I still believe powertrain testing is being done, but the lack of camo or masking has me confused.
Powertrain testing is done years ahead of actual release, and is quite often done on existing models. They just rip out the old powertrain and put the new one in. Eliminates the need for camo. Camo will show up closer to production as they test out the cooling of the new front end.

EDIT: I see Rodney beat me by a couple minutes.
 
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Originally Posted by Christian's1988Ford
I agree with transmission testing, however, it seems like any type of powertrain testing by Ford is usually done with masked prototypes. The only times Ford seems to avoid masking material is a day or so before the release of a new model year vehicle, like the RC/LB DRW '17 that was testing a few days before the '17s were announced.

Even with already-existing vehicles like the Ranger and Everest overseas, Ford still uses heavy camouflage on those vehicles, which are currently being used for powertrain testing in the desert.

I still believe powertrain testing is being done, but the lack of camo or masking has me confused.

Yup on the masking!!! Generally. Last month there were some Dodges all masked up doing some testing also......but there was something that was a dead giveaway that they couldn't mask!!


LOL!!
 
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