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Old 08-25-2017, 04:47 PM
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Any Experience with Enerburn?

A member of this forum has been doing fleet testing of Enerburn, a diesel fuel additive designed to greatly reduce soot and help clean the DPF. His fleet has a lot of stop and go, plus idle time and regens were problematic. Since he began using it on two trucks, the number of forced regens has dropped dramatically.
While the thread is about using DK to clean the DPF in the 6.4L section, I wonder if anyone else has tried this product as I am not comfortable being among the first to try a new product in my fuel.
Further research indicates discussions of Enerburn can end up like some thread on the Andersen Ultimate Hitch or Archoil. In other words, if it is new, condemn it.
But another thing to discuss is if it is even cost effective. I can see where keeping a fleet going by reducing component issues may be good for a company, but would an individual benefit or just be spending money unnecessarily.
 
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Old 08-25-2017, 05:40 PM
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Do you have any links to the 6.4 thread or the website for Eneburn?

I tried one of the others one but it didn't change anything for my regens. Tried local and on trips. Regens still occur at the same intervals. Also, from what I have read, Ford has the ECU set at 500 miles since the last regen to automatically perform a regen regardless of thee soot level.
 
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Old 08-25-2017, 07:29 PM
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The thread got hijacked a little from the Diesel Kleen to clean the DPF, but here is the discussion of Enerburn. https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...ean-dpf-2.html

Just an FYI, I am just looking for user info on Enerburn, so discussions of any other additive are not pertinent to this thread.

While the product seems to be for big rigs and fleets, I saw testimonials from lighter truck and RV users that said good things.

Here is the mfg website: https://www.enerburninc.com/
 
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Old 08-26-2017, 05:16 AM
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Excuse me, but it doesn't hurt to add more info. You can buy it and try this product and report to us then.
 
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As long as it does not contain components that take away the lubricity of the fuel is should be fine.


Diesel Kleen in my 6.4 did nothing to reduce regens.


My 6.4 was a good one and I never had a problem anyway. I did use a banks 6 gun on economy mode and that is what kept my regens at around 500 miles apart not towing.


My 6.7 does not regen much either, very little when towing if any and unloaded around 400 miles apart but not a long regen either.
 
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Excuse me, but it doesn't hurt to add more info. You can buy it and try this product and report to us then.
I'm not trying to bust your chops, just trying to stay on topic with Enerburn. So in taking your suggestion I ordered some. I spoke with the distributor last night and mentioned Archoil's AR6200 which she hadn't heard of so I sent her a link.
She responded a couple of hours later saying that AR6200 was similar in makeup to Enerburn. There is a difference in the way they work though. AR6200 produces benefits from first use and Enerburn requires a period of use (up to 4 tanks) before it is fully engaged in reducing soot in the DPF. So at my current driving levels (retired, but towing), it may be 4-6 weeks before I see any difference. Meanwhile, I'll quit the AR6200, but continue with Opti-Lube.
While it seems expensive initially, at an ounce per tank, the two 16oz bottles can last me over a year.
 
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Old 08-26-2017, 09:03 AM
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This is the information that JKG Inc gave me after looking at AR6200:

"Thanks for info on AR6200. I am checking it out right now.

From what I can tell it appears to be a multi-functional additive in a very concentrated form. AR6200 is formulated with a detergent, a fuel stabilizer, a biocide of some sort, a fuel lubricant additive, a dispersant and a demulsifier. Very likely it also contains a fuel borne catalyst (FBC) as the “Combustion Modifier” additive that is touted in the product data sheet.

EnerBurn has some of the same types of additives in common with AR6200 (FBC and stabilizer) and also functions as an anti-microbial and lubricity additive. Both brands cost $0.08 per treated gallon.

Of course the formula of each brand is unique and both are proprietary. I suppose it all boils down to which problem you, the consumer, are most concerned with addressing. In your case, it would be soot and smoke abatement…this is something than EnerBurn is proven to do extremely well.

Here are summaries of 3rd party studies should you wish to dig deeper...if you have questions I am more than happy to try to answer them.
Bio Diesel and Diesel Fuel Additives | Diesel Exhaust System Protection |

http://betterdiesel.com/trucker-testimonials/
 
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Because there seems to be no experience with the product here, I am posting some reviews from others, the first from an RV diesel pusher owner and 2 from Powerstroke owners:

Hello anyone with an RV using diesel
April 2017
I have been using the Enerburn product for about a year now. Even though I don’t run the RV as many miles as a typical trucker, it didn’t take long to realize that the product lived up to it’s name. In checking my mileage on a trip from Minnesota to Florida and back I found that on average I was getting somewhere between 1 to 2 miles per gallon better than before using Enerburn. This in itself was a good reason to use it. However what made it worth my using was the handy container it came in. Generally when driving my RV I’m not in the mood for getting my hands dirty. Also, unlike the larger tanks on trucks, I only hold about 20 gallons. The bottle it comes in makes it very convenient to dispense. Simply squeeze the bottle to put the desired quantity in the reservoir, open the cap, and pour it in. It was so clean that I was able to keep the bottle in the door pocket for convenient access in filling up. No mess, no smell, just works!

Tom Youngquist
RV owner
St. Paul, MN

Attention Diesel Pick-up Truck Owners…
April 2017
“I am very happy with EnerBurn – it’s been like a miracle drug for my 2015 Ford F250 6.7L PowerStroke diesel pick-up truck.
I drive ~700 miles per week, my fuel economy is up to 16 MPG, an increase of 20%. The DPF regen frequency has dropped from every other day to once per week. I definitely recommend the product”

George Kossivas
Ford F250 Diesel PowerStroke
Chicago, IL

“It’s good stuff”
May 2017

“My 2012 Ford PowerStroke diesel pick-up truck has pep like when it was new after the first 10 ounces of Enerburn (200 gallons treated). The engine was running sluggish at 140,000 miles. I can already tell that the exhaust system is cleaner, my mileage is better, and I am using less DEF fluid. It’s made a world of difference. I intend to keep using the product and recommend to other diesel pick-up truck owners.”

Bill Green, owner
Road Buds Big Loads – load escort services
 
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My two 16 oz bottles of Enerburn were delivered today and I added the first dose to the tank. I don't plan to do any extra driving to test because of fuel prices going up. The premise of this product is to reduce active regens by doing more passive regeneration.
DPF Regen Treatment | Clean DPF | High Soot DPF |

Since I've been using AR6200 since the truck was new, I don't plan to do the recommended cleaning and conditioning dosing, but go straight to the maintenance dosing. Per Enerburn:

Start out at the “cleaning and conditioning dose” of: one (1) ounce of EnerBurn for every 20 gallons of diesel.

After the first 2-4 weeks or first 4 tanks treated please decrease to the “maintenance dose” of: one (1) ounce of EnerBurn for every 24 - 25 gallons of diesel.
 
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Passive regen only occurs when temps are 750 degrees or higher during normal operations such as towing. Even with passive regens, you will still have an active regen 500 miles since the last active regen. None of the additives change the 500 mile limit imposed by Ford in the ECU.
 
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Right, while commuting 70 miles daily, my regens were at the 500 mile mark. Now that the truck gets shorter trips, my regen frequency is down to about 350 miles. My hope is to increase that with Enerburn. If that doesn't happen, I will return to using AR6200.
If you go to the link in post #3, you will see a member testing with his fleet has had great results. SANDDEMON08's posts 24 & 25 in that thread document his experience.
 
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Subscribed as I plan on ordering this as well but hopefully cheaper then what they want for shipping on their site: $34.00.


I have to call a dealer in PA tomorrow...hopefully save money on shipping...
 
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They charge even more on Amazon but it may be the same company. Described as a hazmat shipping fee. When we travel across the country, I'll have to make note of those distributors in case I get close enough to pick some up. I'll save the bottles and try to get a gallon to refill with if I am still using it.
I still use Opti-Lube Summer Plus and buy it by the gallon to refill the original 16 and 8 oz bottles. I carry it in the RV storage when I take long trips.
 
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UPDATE ON ENERBURN
After getting 100 miles on my first tank of Enerburn with nothing significant noted, I topped off the tank and added enough Enerburn to ensure I had the start up mix of 1 oz to 20 gallons, hitched up the fifth wheel and headed to New Hampshire to see Alabama in concert.
Keeping in mind that Enerburn says it gets worse before it gets better, I noted my soot GPL (grams per liter) was at 2.52, well on its way to a regen at 3.50 plus, and the DPF Load (who knows) was at about 75%. In the early miles of the 150 mile trip, I watch with mild alarm as the soot numbers rocketed upwards and in 35 miles, soot GPL was 3.00 and DPF Load was long past 100%. I was going to regen soon for sure. Then as I started gaining altitude and EGT1 and 4 began going up, the numbers started to drop at a faster rate than I had ever seen before in a passive regen. By the time I got to my exit for Meredith NH, my soot GPL was down to 2.10 and DPF Load was 64%. At the beginning of the trip, my dash showed % DPF Full at 65% and it moved quickly to 70, then 75%. At some point during the trip, that dropped back to 70 and up to 75% again. The way that works is that for 500 mile regens, it stays low until around 400 miles and starts climbing so it will say DPF Full at 500 miles and start the regen. In other word, it doesn't mean much as far as actual DPF soot goes unless you are doing shorter trips that create more soot.
I am 390 miles out since the last regen, but the soot GPL now indicates that it will be 50-75 miles to the next and the DPF Full screen says not so much. So the next regen should be somewhere between 450-500 miles and that is much better than the 350 miles I have been averaging up until now. Plus I started using the Enerburn around 100 miles after the last regen. So it is looking good for Enerburn at this point.
 
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Ordered 2 of the 16 oz bottles 3 days ago. Leave for 1600 mile trip in about a week. Hope I get it before trip to test it out. I also use Optilube Summer plus too.
 
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