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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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Brakes?/ Help??

03 F250 7.3. I busted a brake line last week somehow, Got it replaced and fixed up, Bled that line and everything was somewhat good.

Now, when i hit the brakes hard, I have pressure. If I let off even a little, My pedal will start to sink till i apply more pressure. Any opinions on what i should do? I am gonna fully bleed my brakes when I'm home to see if it helps any.

Any past experiences from anyone will be great
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 08:41 AM
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Bad master cylinder.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 08:52 AM
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Sometimes when you get a leaky line all of the dirt and grit that may have been in your reservoir is allowed a easy path through your master cylinder. This can cause a problem.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 09:16 AM
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The MC typically never travels beyond 1/2 pedal. When you push pedal to floor it forces the piston into places in the cylinder it doesn't normally go. If there is corrosion on the cylinder walls, it can damage the piston seal and allow MC to 'bypass' causing what you describe.

When I bleed brakes, I put a block of wood under the brake pedal to prevent full travel and avoid this problem.
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 10:04 AM
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Thank yall! I appreciate the responses
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 01:39 PM
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I'm going to point in a slightly different direction and say you have air in the lines.

An example: Recently I was replacing both rear lines and the center "feed" line and block to those lines.

Well, I replaced both lines first and bled them. Then when I replaced the center feed line, I had to disconnect those and there were some other access issues that allowed the lines to drain.

I allow the lines to drain slowly (tie them up) when disconnected, but make sure to never let the under the hood reservoir go too low (avoid master cylinder bleed issues)

When all was reassembled, I bled the lines again. But on the test drive had similar issues as you describe.

There was air further back in the line that took a lot more fluid to bleed out, but it was obvious once the air hit the bleeders.

Since you had a brake line actually BREAK, it's likely you had a pretty significant drain of fluid and also likely you simply have air further up the line. Bleed the farthest brake from the MC first.

Is it possible to have a failed MC? Sure, but I'd bet it's just air

Good luck and let us know what you find!
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 07:47 PM
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I actually think I found the issue folks. It is the master cylinder. It had a very subtle leak right by the fire wall. Not even enough to make a puddle on the concrete but enough to let it suck some air
 
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Old Aug 20, 2017 | 11:33 PM
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I actually think I found the issue folks. It is the master cylinder. It had a very subtle leak right by the fire wall. Not even enough to make a puddle on the concrete but enough to let it suck some air
With anything hydraulic, cleanliness is next to godliness. This finds very near an original or seal is all over.
 
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