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Engine Mod's update: cam & heads
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Engine Mod's update: cam & heads
New Crane 268 cam/lifter kit installed. Aluminum GT-40 heads need the studs & guideplates afterall due to the .486 lift created by the cam/lifter combo + 1.7 rolling rockers from FordRacing. Caused a 2-4 day delay waiting for the studs & guideplates from Summit, but s/b done end of this coming week. According to 4Speed (who knows of a website that you can dyno your engine spec's on), I s/b in the neighborhood of 343 hp @ 5500rpm & 363 ft. lbs. of torque @ 4000rpm.
More tech info as it comes available...
Butch n Me
More tech info as it comes available...
Butch n Me
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Big Bad Butch
He was a Three-O-Two, he thought he was more, he had a cam-n-liftres, maybe a little more.
Heads so new they didn't fit right, His ol owner had a terrible fright.
Big Bad Butch, Big Bad Butch
He was a Three-O-Two, he thought he was more, he had a cam-n-liftres, maybe a little more.
Heads so new they didn't fit right, His ol owner had a terrible fright.
Big Bad Butch, Big Bad Butch
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Congrats! Maybe you won't be driving that camaro as often! Remember Daryl, That engine dyno is just a estimate, its often off by 20h.p give or take.
Dick, Dont quit your dayjob,.... oh wait
-4speed
Dick, Dont quit your dayjob,.... oh wait
-4speed
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Engine Mod's update: cam & heads
Originally posted by 51dueller
Now is Darryl beating 'fenders for horsepower?
Now is Darryl beating 'fenders for horsepower?
Not that anyone asked, but here is more fuel for the long running 302 vs 351 debate/friendly discussion. It has at least two parts to it in my opinion. First, the 302 owners here continue to prove you can get good performance out of a 302. Certainly more than exceptable for a F100 street truck. But we are modifying the heck out of our engines to get stocklike 351W torque. And we still fail to get it in the 1500-2000 RPM cruise range where my truck spends 95% of it's time. 302s don't make any torque down there. 4000+ RPM specs are neat, but it's not a pleasant place to cruise at all.
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Guys
I saw a 302 crate motor in a mag complete 320 hp for $3195. When you consider you could sell yours for a few hundred, that is not a bad deal.
Bill
I saw a 302 crate motor in a mag complete 320 hp for $3195. When you consider you could sell yours for a few hundred, that is not a bad deal.
Bill
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"When you consider you could sell yours for a few hundred, that is not a bad deal."
Ya Bill, wouldn't it be swell if we could sell our new motors and maybe recover what we spent on our valve covers and air cleaner.
Ya Bill, wouldn't it be swell if we could sell our new motors and maybe recover what we spent on our valve covers and air cleaner.
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Fender's,
I agree that its tough to get torque out of a winding 5.0,.... but I still want to try.
There's all sorts of aftermarket stuff that lets these bay's breath but htat puts the torque peak up over 3K. I still believe that mildly ported stock heads with an RV cam and some long tube small diameter headers with a reasonable diameter exhaust, will get a decent boost in mid range torque. it may not make the high horsepower numbers but I don't want to be in the higher RPM's to achive these numbers either.
OTOH, if you want big torque down low, why stop at a 351. A stock 460 will provide huge torque numbers in comparison.
. I'm still gonna do the 5.0 though.
I agree that its tough to get torque out of a winding 5.0,.... but I still want to try.
There's all sorts of aftermarket stuff that lets these bay's breath but htat puts the torque peak up over 3K. I still believe that mildly ported stock heads with an RV cam and some long tube small diameter headers with a reasonable diameter exhaust, will get a decent boost in mid range torque. it may not make the high horsepower numbers but I don't want to be in the higher RPM's to achive these numbers either.
OTOH, if you want big torque down low, why stop at a 351. A stock 460 will provide huge torque numbers in comparison.
. I'm still gonna do the 5.0 though.
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"A stock 460 will provide huge torque numbers in comparison."
Who asked you?
'fenders
Now you really did it. We gotta listen to Niolon and Purple sing the big block song again.
Who asked you?
'fenders
Now you really did it. We gotta listen to Niolon and Purple sing the big block song again.
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Maybe you should rod a 300 I-6 if you spent some money you could get 300 hp and 500 ft torque. Just need a cam,Intake and exhaust manifold, 4 barel carb. Supposidly a stock 73 429 will only do 325 ft and a '65 300 I-6 will do 280 ft.
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Originally posted by fatfenders
[B. But we are modifying the heck out of our engines to get stocklike 351W torque. And we still fail to get it in the 1500-2000 RPM cruise range where my truck spends 95% of it's time. 302s don't make any torque down there. 4000+ RPM specs are neat, but it's not a pleasant place to cruise at all. [/B]
[B. But we are modifying the heck out of our engines to get stocklike 351W torque. And we still fail to get it in the 1500-2000 RPM cruise range where my truck spends 95% of it's time. 302s don't make any torque down there. 4000+ RPM specs are neat, but it's not a pleasant place to cruise at all. [/B]
I rest my case!
