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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:07 PM
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CK4 Oil Update

This showed up on my recommended videos today. Looks like others are coming out with negative opinions on the new spec oil. Makes me really admire the Ford engineers who probably took plenty-O-heat from the EPA when they advised their owners not to use this junk.

 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:26 PM
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Interesting. I was under the impression that the real problem was with the "dual rated" oils, like CK-4/SN. I am waiting to see results from the promised 6.7 wear test.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:31 PM
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wow...good job FoMoCo!
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 08:59 PM
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Good topic to see. Been researching my first oil change for my new truck all night and even drove around to a number of places looking to see who stocks what. Pretty sure I'll be going with the Valvoline PBE when the time comes.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 09:08 PM
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There are two important issues here:
1) Not all CK-4 oil is good oil
2) Ford 6.7 valvetrain is prone to wear
A lot of focus on the first item. Not as much on the second. Use the best oil you can find is my takeaway.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 09:17 PM
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Glad i picked up a bunch of CJ4 Chevron Delo 5w40 full synthetic at walmart while still available. I ran the 15w40 in my 7.3 and was really happy with it. I noticed the Delo CK4 has a red cap, the CJ4 has a black cap. There was no ck4 5w40 on the shelves. I read that Chevron will have ck4 5w40 synthetic later this summer, don't know of any specs on it.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 09:37 PM
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I think everyone who stockpiled CJ4 is glad they did it but there are plenty of good oils available also. It's just this watery CK4 that's proving to be inadequate. And what about all the other diesel engines out there? What about GM, Fiat and the bigger class? What about the passenger vehicles with diesel engines? Any high compression engine that is running CK4 is going to wear out twice as fast as with CJ4.

Let the conspiracy theories begin.
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 09:58 PM
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A really good article (but dated) gives a good background for this topic: http://www.enginebuildermag.com/2012/03/zddp-when-where-what-why-how/
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 10:10 PM
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Knowing what we know about the CK-4 oil, I can't believe anyone is using the FA spec oil...
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 11:13 PM
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What about this oil 15-40 full synthetic, priced right and available through Walmart via special order. Please let me know your thoughts.

https://www.mileslubricants.com/product/show/1360
 
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Old Jul 19, 2017 | 11:16 PM
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About to do my first oil change, anyone have a good recommendation for hot weather oil? Lowest it goes here over the summer is probably mid-60s.
 
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Has anyone created a list of approved oils?
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 04:56 AM
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Has anyone created a list of approved oils?
HERE is the approved list of oils.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 08:50 AM
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Makes me glad I've stuck w/ the 15w40 Motorcraft, its available just about everywhere.
 
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Old Jul 20, 2017 | 09:03 AM
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I just buy the approved PBE 5w40 from amazon. $20 / gallon or so.
 
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