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I've pretty much settled on a Ford 350 ccsb 4x4. There are two fifth wheels with the floorplans we like. The favored one weighs about 13.5k, the other maxed is 11.5k.
But I haven't decided on gas or diesel.
Gas will be the 6.2 paired with the 4.30. The table is easy to read and shows 15.7 k for fifth wheeled towing.
The diesel will be the power stroke with the 3.55.
And that's my question. Theres a lot of rows for the 3.55 but only 2-3 that have an entry in the column for crew cab, short box 4x 4. so it's not as easy ( for me )to determine what is the correct amount. Last column on the right.
20,600# is the diesel rating...more than enough with room to get a larger 5th wheel down the road.
Can you explain the two other entries in the same column for the same 3.55 gear with the same diesel that only had a tow rating of 12.9k and 13.6k? How can I make sure I don't get that truck? I certainly would prefer the higher rated one.
Larry, I (and others) have asked this question now a couple of times, but so far no luck. Obviously, nobody knows the answer, or we are not asking it in a good way.
I assume (emphasis on assume) that the possible GCWR depends on your equipment... springs and such you can load in your packages. The higher the GCWR rating, the more you can pull. The difference between GCWR and tow rating is about 8000 lbs, possibly the dry weight of the truck (without luxury stuff like Lariat and King Ranch, and, of course, without you and your dogs). At the end, this is a guide, not a certificate.
28,200 – – – – – – – – – 20,000(4)(5)
28,400 – – – – – – – 20,600(4)(5) – –
28,600 – – – – – – 21,000(4)(5) – 20,600(4)(5) –
28,700 21,500(4)(5)/ 21,100(4)(5)/ 21,300(4)(5)/ 21,100(1)(4)(5) 20,900(4)(5)/ 20,700(1)(2)(4)(5) 21,000(1)(4) 20,800(4)(5) 20,600(1)(2)(4) 20,400(1)(2)(4)
21,400(1)(4) 21,000(1)(2)(4) 21,200(1)(4) 20,800(1)(2)(4) (1) 18" Tires. (2) 20" Tires. (3) Optional 10,000-lb. GVWR Package (6). (4) Gooseneck tow rating shown. 5th-wheel tow rating limited to 5th-wheel hitch rating of 18,000 lbs. (5) 17" Tires. Note: Trailer tongue (trailer king pin for 5th-wheel towing) load weight should be 10% (15% for 5th-wheel towing) of total loaded trailer weight. Make sure vehicle payload (reduce by option weight) will accommodate trailer tongue (trailer king pin for 5th-wheel towing) load weight and weight of passengers and cargo added to towing vehicle. Addition of trailer tongue (trailer king pin for 5th-wheel
towing) load weight and weight of passengers and cargo must not cause vehicle weights to exceed rear GAWR or GVWR. These ratings can be found on the vehicle Safety Compliance Certification Label.
Fine print
note 3 is 10K GVWR package, so look at the door cert to ensure you get 11.5 GVWR.
Note 4 is 20K for gooseneck but 18K for 5th wheel.
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note 3 is 10K GVWR package, so look at the door cert to ensure you get 11.5 GVWR.
Note 4 is 20K for gooseneck but 18K for 5th wheel.
That's what I thought, the left column with the GCWR depends on your packages. As I am looking at the same truck, I want the 11.5 GVWR package to get max tow capability (and the right tires, of course).
The AUH is a gooseneck hitch, so it means, we could go with 20k? Not that we plan to, there's the pin weight after all, but I am wondering whether the AUH counts as gooseneck in this case.
Larry, you said you want CCSB. I don't know if you were in the other thread, but in that thread we pointed out that the short bed gets the small gas tank. Only in the CCLB do you get the 48 gallon tank. When towing, more gallons = more miles.
Larry, you said you want CCSB. I don't know if you were in the other thread, but in that thread we pointed out that the short bed gets the small gas tank. Only in the CCLB do you get the 48 gallon tank. When towing, more gallons = more miles.
The bigger gas tank did create a conflict. But this truck may only tow 10% of the time. On a test drive I had to do a u-turn with the long bed. The necessary 3-point turn made me realize that could get old quick.
Plus wife would drive it sometimes. Also work in a family pasture would be easier getting through some gates.
Understood. It's all in your perspective and how you plan to use it. Mine will be towing probably 80% of the time and my wife wouldn't be caught dead driving it. At least that's the plan.
like where I park my truck... behind house. Truck Port.
my 2 door Dodge short bed.. turned the tight right.. easy
my Ford SCLB.. is a 4 point turn... so I back down the 150 foot driveway and its a 2 point turn.
my Truck is my daily driver..
Wife have said many times... She will never drive the Truck
as for the Dodge.. she never drove it also.. it was a manual transmission
If you get a 2017 Lariat CCSB Diesel 4x4 your 5th wheel towing capacity will be 18,000 lbs BUT the limiting factor will be payload.
I tow a 14,000 lb 5th wheel with that truck and the payload is 3500 lbs. my pin weight is about 2800 lbs, passengers, dog, firewood etc in truck 500 lbs and hitch (Andersen) is 37 lbs. that puts me 163 lbs below Payload. It tows great.
One important advantage that the diesel has over gas engine is exhaust brake.
A gas 350 will give you an additional 1000 lbs of payload but max tow of 15,700 lbs with a 4.30 rear.
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). (4) Gooseneck tow rating shown. 5th-wheel tow rating limited to 5th-wheel hitch rating of 18,000 lbs. (5) 17" Tires.
