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What's this 20 mph stuff, your not the first one to mention it? They work across the board at any speed. I can be sitting still and slide the slide over and the truck isn't moving, I can be creeping down my driveway and activate the truck brakes and the trailer is engaged also????
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Then you use the slider to manually override the brakes you should be getting full stopping effort on the trailer only. If you are driving, use use the trucks foot brake, the antilock, sway control, will be modulating the amount of brake applied to the trailer amd the truck.
Try the manual slider at 25mph on a gravel road and report back. You should be able to drag the trailer around with wheels locked up.
Using the foot brake, your getting interference with the safety systems, which makes it appear the brakes aren't working.
Also, try running the trailer connection test, it should report all wiring and trailer of functions are ok.
Try the manual slider at 25mph on a gravel road and report back. You should be able to drag the trailer around with wheels locked up.
Using the foot brake, your getting interference with the safety systems, which makes it appear the brakes aren't working.
Also, try running the trailer connection test, it should report all wiring and trailer of functions are ok.
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I HAD the same issue as many of you. New 5er with only a couple of short trips under its belt. I looked at it. Took the trailer in to be serviced. Everything was set and adjusted correctly and the brakes should lock up. After much searching on the RV sites I found out that Ford uses a brand of trailer connector that is not completely compatible with some umbilical cords installed on some trailers.
I did not get the 5er prep since I bought the sliding B&W (which at the time did not come with the ford pucks as an option) so I installed the umbilical connection and the camera connection. I bought the umbilical extension from Etrailer and the camera TPMS extension and box from Nichols Welding. Hooked it all up and on the maiden voyage today, to get rid of the China bombs, I locked up all 4 brakes on the trailer. I adjusted the brakes down to 8.0 gain and it seems good. Need to play with it some more but there was too much traffic. Some of the people on the forums were changing the trailer umbilical and got good results.
BTW, the umbilical slides right into the new trailer connection. It was always an issue getting it into the Ford connector. Also to note that my 8k utility trailer had no problem locking up with the old connector. That one is back in the bumper.
Good luck.
I did not get the 5er prep since I bought the sliding B&W (which at the time did not come with the ford pucks as an option) so I installed the umbilical connection and the camera connection. I bought the umbilical extension from Etrailer and the camera TPMS extension and box from Nichols Welding. Hooked it all up and on the maiden voyage today, to get rid of the China bombs, I locked up all 4 brakes on the trailer. I adjusted the brakes down to 8.0 gain and it seems good. Need to play with it some more but there was too much traffic. Some of the people on the forums were changing the trailer umbilical and got good results.
BTW, the umbilical slides right into the new trailer connection. It was always an issue getting it into the Ford connector. Also to note that my 8k utility trailer had no problem locking up with the old connector. That one is back in the bumper.
Good luck.
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Sounds silly but there is a huge difference in the brake effort with the new plug.
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Just because they have the same plug doesn't mean they are wired the same. It's supposed to be standard but that doesn't mean it is
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I think I found the source of my weak braking. I pulled the drums off the trailer and discovered that all of them have grooves in the armature surface as well as on the magnets. The grooves look just like ripples on a sand beach, very smooth and irregular widths. They are obviously not allowing the magnet to grab on properly. I have no idea what could have caused this kind of wear.
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I have two gooseneck trailers. The ghetto trailer has electric drum brakes and the new trailer has electric/hydraulic discs. Both of them work like they're supposed to. The difference being the new trailer weighs about 1k more than the ghetto one and the disc brakes are like dropping an anchor in a mud flat. I am very pleased with the Ford controller. My .02
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