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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:35 PM
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Hello All, My first post here.
I am having a very hard time trying to locate a tranny for my motorhome and was told to check with the folks here. What I have is a 1990 Foretravel with a 460 and a C6 tranny. I have a tag number of PDJ BC2 L27C E5TP DA . I spoke with ford and they cannot find anything on this. I did some online research and found numbers close to matching an 85 E350. ( which is strange because the tranny is original in the RV. Anyway, if there is anyone who can decode my tag I would really appreciate it. I would like to get a new tranny.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:52 PM
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Does your RV have a van front end? The van "cab and chassis" is a very common platform for small to mid sized RVs. In any event you simply need a big block C6 trans, the small block and diesel versions are no good to you and it won't matter what truck this comes from if you are buying used because that trans is not computer controlled and any vehicle it would be used in would be a heavy duty truck.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 05:59 PM
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It's a Class A front engine. So it really doesn't matter what tranny I get as long as its a C6 Big Block? NO differences? I assume the only differences would be the torque converter? It's actually on a Oshkosh chassis rated at 18,000lbs.. its not a little rv hahaha. FYI, I am looking for a re-manufactured unit which is where the problem starts because the re-man companies want an application for the it for warranty. One said that if I ordered a tranny for a f250 but put it in my RV it would void any warranty. That's why I am trying to decipher what the actual tag fits.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:29 PM
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Yeah that is a lot bigger than an F250 and it doesn't really translate to any other passenger vehicle so I suggest that is what you tell the supplier. This trans like most Ford transmissions has an integrated bell housing and that bolt pattern is different on all the different engine families so you need that one version, the others won't even bolt up.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:31 PM
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Yeah.. Hopefully I can get something I can use. :-)
 
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 02:39 AM
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Originally Posted by ryankaczmarek

I am having a very hard time trying to locate a tranny for my motorhome and was told to check with the folks here. What I have is a 1990 Foretravel with a 460 and a C6 tranny. I have a tag number of PDJ BC2 L27C E5TP DA . I spoke with ford and they cannot find anything on this.
You actually went into a dealer parts counter and the counter person could not find a PN/APPLICATION with this TAG I.D. No.?

Do you want an exchange trans (doing the work yourself) or can no one rebuild/install exchange in their shop?
 
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 08:35 PM
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Yes I did. I got a call back from them today. Interesting that they say the tranny is from an 84 E350. Interesting because its the original tranny in this 90. Anywho, they quoted me a price of 2K for it.. OUCH!!! I think I will take mine in and have it rebuild. Thank all for the comments.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by ryankaczmarek
Yes I did. I got a call back from them today. Interesting that they say the tranny is from an 84 E350. Interesting because its the original tranny in this 90. Anywho, they quoted me a price of 2K for it.. OUCH!!! I think I will take mine in and have it rebuild. Thank all for the comments.
I imagine a rebuild of yours would be just as much money, unless you pull & install it yourself, but what do I know. Good luck, I'd like to see pictures of this RV!
 
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I do plan on doing all the work myself.. Being honest, I just do not trust other fixing my stuff.
 
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Originally Posted by ryankaczmarek
Interesting that they say the tranny is from an 84 E350.
That number you quoted above.. PDJ BC2 L27C E5TP DA, the E5TP part suggests a date in 1985 but like most Ford parts that date may or may not indicate a manufacture date.. it could just be the date the casting was made. This transmission was in production for a very long time but by the '90s most trucks had begun to use overdrive transmissions so it is entirely possible your trans could have been sitting on a shelf for years before it was installed. And even if it wasn't some parts used in it could have been 5 or more years old... brand new never used just sitting in a warehouse.
 
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if they want to know what vehicle, tell them it is a ford F53 chassis.
that is the chassis under your RV.
the last C6 i had rebuilt cost $500, but that was 8 years ago.
 
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Thanks for your comment tjc transport. Unfortunately is is NOT an F53. It is an Oshkosh chassis. Most of the problems I face when trying to locate parts is I need to look under 3 different things. The Oshkosh chassis which has it's own vin number which is used when calling Oshkosh ( now Frieghtliner ) , the coach vin number which is how its registered and then of course the ford drive line which in my case is a mix of all sorts of things. Of course there is "Foretravel" the manufacture of the coach. From an industrial 460 with hydraulic everything used in f650's or just a plane old 460 for the simple components.. now I have this C6 that nobody knows what it is LOL. Best I can come up with is that 85 e350.. So, My guess is, just get your standard c6 with a low stall converter or take mine in for a rebuild. It sure would have been easier if I had a regular RV that was all ford LOL.
Anyway, thanks all who have commented.. I have some decisions to make I guess.
 
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I am completely baffled here.

You have the Assembly I.D Tag which is all you should need to derive the actual Service PN so as to be able to cross reference it with today's re-builders.

The re-builder will need all of the vehicle information you gave above as to properly offer you a warranty, especially on self install.

Did the FORD counter actually arrive at a Service PN? Of course this number would be obsolete but it is still needed as to get to the correct parts list and any service upgrades. The replacement the dealer gave was a REMAN, correct?

How is it on fuel consumption?
 
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a rebuilder will not care what the vehicle manufacturer is, he will only want to know how it will be used and what weight. tell him it is going into a 20,000 lb rv with 460 gas engine and he will build it properly.
 
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Originally Posted by tjc transport

a rebuilder will not care what the vehicle manufacturer is, he will only want to know how it will be used and what weight. tell him it is going into a 20,000 lb rv with 460 gas engine and he will build it properly.
Originally Posted by ryankaczmarek

It's a Class A front engine. So it really doesn't matter what tranny I get as long as its a C6 Big Block? NO differences? I assume the only differences would be the torque converter? It's actually on a Oshkosh chassis rated at 18,000lbs.. its not a little rv hahaha.

FYI, I am looking for a re-manufactured unit which is where the problem starts because the re-man companies want an application for the it for warranty. One said that if I ordered a tranny for a f250 but put it in my RV it would void any warranty. That's why I am trying to decipher what the actual tag fits.
If you had a trans reman business, wouldn't you want/need to know the application and planned usage of the trans before offering a warranty?

They also need to know the planed usage and vehicle type to know what specs to build it to. A lot has changed since the 1985 model run.
 
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