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Old Jun 19, 2017 | 04:17 PM
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I have a 2005 F250 5.4L 2wd. Parked the vehicle in my driveway and the next morning there was no response from the accelerator and the CEL light and the wrench light on. I pulled the codes and came up with codes P2104, P2107 and P2110. The KOEO code was P2122. I checked the wiring and connectors and all appear to be fine I replaced the throttle body and no change. I removed the accelerator pedal and tried it on another vehicle and it worked fine. I have power to pin 16 on the diagnostic port. After clearing the codes and rescanning the same codes come up immediately. I would appreciate any help diagnosing this and thank you in advance.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 01:31 PM
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Any advice would be helpful and appreciated.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 06:28 PM
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Not sure how much of this applies to your vehicle, but googling those codes led me to this: https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/6...s-related.html. Post #14 looks promising.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 06:31 PM
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This video suggests maybe shorted wires
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 07:16 PM
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I saw that one. I will check the the harness again. Similar situation. Thanks
 
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 01:44 PM
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You pulled 4 codes 3 of them closely related to each other , the 4th one P2122 is the gas pedal position sensor it relies on 2 signals, if signal1 is outside it's parameters, it sees fail and the rest of the codes are set that you are seeing. Did you also check your TPS? also make sure that nothing physical has gotten into the way of the TB linkage, holding it open a little bit. Also check to make sure your throttle control motor is operating and as said before, recheck your wiring harness.
 
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Old Jun 21, 2017 | 01:53 PM
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I replaced the throttle body assembly and tried the pedal on another vehicle. It worked fine. Harness looks good and when I start the engine it idles up to 2000 rpms and comes down. When idle comes down it seems to have a misfire. What other issues would cause forced idle mode with those codes?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 06:32 AM
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Sounds like a throttle position sensor may be bad. May be something better fixed at the dealer. You could throw more parts at it and never solve the problem. How much did the throttle body cost?
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 06:36 AM
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185.00 with TPS.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 07:44 AM
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Did you check voltage on the sensor wires? I know you said you checked power to pin 16 but did you check to see if you have too low of a voltage? With everything you've already replaced, I think it's time to run the voltage draw and check all your grounds.
 
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Old Jun 22, 2017 | 09:01 AM
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Voltage was 12.9 at pin 16. I will check the other connections today. Thanks
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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I checked all the wiring for the TPS and all is good. Does the PCM need to be reflashed with the replacement of the throttle body? Old throttle body had old style TPS.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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According to what I have read, that if you have validated the wiring, connections, voltages and sensors are where they're supposed to be then more than likely your PCM needs to be replaced, BUT, you said " Old throttle body had old style TPS" I didn't know they changed the TPS so maybe a reflash would do the trick, although I wouldn't think the TPS change would mean you'd have to reflash the PCM because that means the everyone that had to change it would need to go to the dealer and pay for a reflash.

Did you pull the connector at the PCM and check the pins for corrosion or any pins pushed back or bent?
 
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Yes I did.
 
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Old Jun 29, 2017 | 10:34 AM
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Still getting P2104, P2107 and P2110. KOEO I get P0121 P2110, P1397, P2107,P2104. Driving me crazy!
 
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