My first maintenance call
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My first maintenance call
I purchased my buggy (below) used a little over two years ago, from an out of town Ford dealer. It came with no maint. records and had 17-18K on the clock.
It was originally a Calif. vehicle that found its way to Alabama, I believe thru an auction house. Makes me wonder if someone there did a delete and then in order to sell it moved it out here where our folks don't test them (yet). In my 3K I've never added DEF, but that's to be expected if it was full.
History aside - and now at 21K - I'm thinking its past time to visit my local dealership and bring it up to date. Other than 6-7 tanks of fuel (most recent one was last July) and a new pair of windshield wipers I've spent zero $ on it.
Today I swung by my local dealership and spoke with the Srv Mngr. He, alongside his diesel mech. suggested the following items:
LOF - $119
FUEL FILTERS - $197
CHECK AIR FILTER - $5
CHECK COOLANT - $10.
While departing they also mentioned additives (fuel and DEF).
I have no reason (meaning no knowledge) to question any of those recommendations - or their prices, so I turn to those who can guide me.
Ideas? Thank you.
It was originally a Calif. vehicle that found its way to Alabama, I believe thru an auction house. Makes me wonder if someone there did a delete and then in order to sell it moved it out here where our folks don't test them (yet). In my 3K I've never added DEF, but that's to be expected if it was full.
History aside - and now at 21K - I'm thinking its past time to visit my local dealership and bring it up to date. Other than 6-7 tanks of fuel (most recent one was last July) and a new pair of windshield wipers I've spent zero $ on it.
Today I swung by my local dealership and spoke with the Srv Mngr. He, alongside his diesel mech. suggested the following items:
LOF - $119
FUEL FILTERS - $197
CHECK AIR FILTER - $5
CHECK COOLANT - $10.
While departing they also mentioned additives (fuel and DEF).
I have no reason (meaning no knowledge) to question any of those recommendations - or their prices, so I turn to those who can guide me.
Ideas? Thank you.
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Fuel filters come in a kit and can be had for $51.00 on Amazon.
Engine oil filter is about $15.50
Can't remember how much the air filter kit is.
I get the oil at Walmart. Rest on Amazon.
If you can change the fluids and filters yourself that would be my recommendation.
If you go to a dealer the sky is the limit on pricing.
Plus you might get a 16 year old kid to do it incorrectly.
Engine oil filter is about $15.50
Can't remember how much the air filter kit is.
I get the oil at Walmart. Rest on Amazon.
If you can change the fluids and filters yourself that would be my recommendation.
If you go to a dealer the sky is the limit on pricing.
Plus you might get a 16 year old kid to do it incorrectly.
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do check the coolant, you can get a test kit for that too. I highly doubt there 10 buck coolant check is using the correct two step test for it. More than likely they are planning on checking the nitriate like the 6.0 and 6.4 Navistar motors.
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Agreed with everyone's comments. If you go to dieselfiltersonline.com, you can order fuel, oil, and air filters. On these items, you can save a ton of money if you can perform these simple maintenance items yourself.
If you choose to do yourself, read up on the replacement of the fuel filters. Not hard to do at all, but you HAVE to do a KOEO 30-second cycle 6 or more times to purge all the air out of the fuel system. If you are in a quiet area, you can hear the air getting pushed out.
If you choose to do yourself, read up on the replacement of the fuel filters. Not hard to do at all, but you HAVE to do a KOEO 30-second cycle 6 or more times to purge all the air out of the fuel system. If you are in a quiet area, you can hear the air getting pushed out.
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Your dealer is quoting pretty much national avg prices for the services you listed.
If you don't want to or have the desire to do the work yourself. He is not over charging you for you listed. And they seem to be in line with your mileage. I don't think he is suggesting you do something that is not due.
If you don't want to or have the desire to do the work yourself. He is not over charging you for you listed. And they seem to be in line with your mileage. I don't think he is suggesting you do something that is not due.
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Thank you gentlemen. To maintain good will I will allow him (dealer) to supply the parts and labor. Once every 2-3 years shouldn't be too painful.
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Good advice here...x2 on using the Motorcraft filters. The aftermarket fuel filters don't fit correctly or have the potential to not fit as stated here in this General Service Bulletin on the primary pump, the Diesel Fuel Conditioning Module (DFCM).
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I just returned with this buggy now serviced - total bill was $406.
The young gal at the counter didn't appear to be too keen on things beyond paperwork so I didn't ask her any questions, but it appears to me that
a. they used two different type of oils (all moto 10W-30). 2 each moto CJ-4 for $46, and 3 each moto M2C1 for $14?
b. they used two air cleaners, FA1902 for $30, and an FA1909 for $26.
c. One kit, element & gasket - oil F, FL2051S at $24
d. one more element FD4615 at $107
These parts came to $248, (with a $24 labor charge?).
More labor subtotals include:
a. Inspect/replace fuel filter $90
b. inspect/replace air filter $15
Labor totaled $129
Comments:
a. they only checked coolant level $0
b. they determined DEF was below half and needs to be topped off $0.
The young gal at the counter didn't appear to be too keen on things beyond paperwork so I didn't ask her any questions, but it appears to me that
a. they used two different type of oils (all moto 10W-30). 2 each moto CJ-4 for $46, and 3 each moto M2C1 for $14?
b. they used two air cleaners, FA1902 for $30, and an FA1909 for $26.
c. One kit, element & gasket - oil F, FL2051S at $24
d. one more element FD4615 at $107
These parts came to $248, (with a $24 labor charge?).
More labor subtotals include:
a. Inspect/replace fuel filter $90
b. inspect/replace air filter $15
Labor totaled $129
Comments:
a. they only checked coolant level $0
b. they determined DEF was below half and needs to be topped off $0.
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Sounds about right.
IF you tow I would use the 40 weight oil. Check your owners Manuel for info on Coolant checking.
On the oil the first two are 5 quart jugs, on the 3 items it 1 quart jugs. This give a total of 15 quarts, which is what is required for your truck.
On DEF I use Wal-Mart brand cheapest I can find Walmart DEF meets the spec. On fuel additive I sometimes I use Ford PM 22.
Only caution I will give you is don't put Def in your fuel. People do it. It a BIG repair bill.
IF you tow I would use the 40 weight oil. Check your owners Manuel for info on Coolant checking.
On the oil the first two are 5 quart jugs, on the 3 items it 1 quart jugs. This give a total of 15 quarts, which is what is required for your truck.
On DEF I use Wal-Mart brand cheapest I can find Walmart DEF meets the spec. On fuel additive I sometimes I use Ford PM 22.
Only caution I will give you is don't put Def in your fuel. People do it. It a BIG repair bill.
