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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 07:16 AM
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ICP??????

1995 F250 7.3

CEL comes on when the she warms up a bit, not showing any codes. However the ICP is reading like it isn't there, reading 751 plugged in or not. I replaced it with one from Ford, no change. It takes about 5 minutes on the road (or high idle) for her to start acting the fool. sounds like she is missing, but passed the buzz test. I have a guy with a snap-on scanner but he has about 15 trucks in front of mine....pretty much the only diesel ford guy worth anything for 100 miles.

I opened up the harness and none of the wiring looks bad. Any ideas what could be causing the PCM to think that the ICP isn't there?
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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How did you check that it was reading 751 psi plugged in or not?

With a new Ford sensor, I'd start looking at the harness to the icp sensor. 750 is about what the default reading is when the icp loses signal, which you probably already knew, so if the sensor is in tact and known to be good...then the harness should be checked. It is not uncommon for oil to be forced into the wires as the sensor fails to keep oil from getting forced through the sensor itself and then into the plug (which is why icp sensor plugs are sold like hotcakes). Start there, then trace back....without a scanner I'd stick to the easy stuff.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 07:47 AM
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I went over to the guy's shop and he plugged into it. He had a little time for minor diagnostics. the only other thing that was reading off, but not enough to raise an eyebrow, was the EPV... gotta clean or change that.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 08:02 AM
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Yes clean the ebps, the 7.3 uses all of its sensors to run optimally but without the feedback from one or more then it starts to run like poop. 7.3s are finicky, stick to the free stuff until you get scan time. If you're keeping your truck a while, just buy a scanner.

Check harness also.
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 08:11 AM
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so even though the wiring "looks" good it could be bad inside the shielding????
 
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Old Jun 7, 2017 | 08:20 AM
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and should I get the sensor plug from Ford or would aftermarket be ok?????
 
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You could probe the wires in the harness a ways back from plug and check resistance, that'd tell you if they're ruined from oil injection. Any harness replacement is fine


You can also see oil in the plug and sensor when this does occur
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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swapped the harness out, no change. ebps tube is on its way.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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Just re-read the OP; there should be a code. Maybe the device you used isn't configured right to read codes from our trucks.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 09:36 AM
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He said the only code is the cps... but I replaced it with a brand new one from Ford. He is using a Snap-on with all the "trimmings"
 
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This is why it's best to have your own scanner.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2017 | 10:33 AM
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I agree... however, not currently in the position to afford said scanner. Anything that can scan these old girls is out of range for the moment.
 
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$20-ish for a USB ELM327 adapter
$50-ish (or zero if you already have one) for a beater eBay/CL Windows netbook/laptop
$0 for Forscan software
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 07:27 AM
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I actually have a bluetooth adapter for the obd2 port, however my truck won't talk to anything... and if I try to read codes when the truck is running it shuts the truck off.

On the bright side, I replaced the IPR and we are back in business.
 
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Old Jun 20, 2017 | 08:38 AM
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Originally Posted by ofullard
I actually have a bluetooth adapter for the obd2 port, however my truck won't talk to anything... and if I try to read codes when the truck is running it shuts the truck off.
Using what app/s?
 
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