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Old May 30, 2017 | 03:10 PM
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Missing Part?

I've got another one for everybody...

I've got the whole front suspension taken apart in my 65 to change th I-beam and radius arm bushings but only one of these came out. Forgot if left or right in the heat of the moment.




It is numbered with 5355 on both radius arms in one of the exploded front end views that some of you graciously post.








Any hope of ordering one or just go junkyard shopping through '69??
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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AR (as required): C5TZ-5355-A .. Front Spring Shim / Obsolete

1965/73 F100/250 2WD

MCDONALD OBSOLETE PARTS in Rockport IN has 1 = 812-359-4965.

MILLER OBSOLETE PARTS in Binghamton NY has 2 = 607-722-5371.

KLIMESH MOTOR SALES in Calmar IA has 4 = 563-562-3241.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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Appears from Bill's post the shims are interchangeable. Own 2 65's, recently reconditioned front suspension on one of the 65's which does not have the shims; whereas, the other 65 does. Now comes down to whether to go with the 'rubber' or 'polyurethane' spindle bushings?

 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 05:14 PM
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AR (as required): C5TZ-5355-A .. Front Spring Shim / Obsolete

I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that as required is another way of saying optional?

I went with the bright red bushings. Definitely not rubber. Is this there a sleeve that is not shown at the pivot of my I-beam? Or is that what 3B177 is??
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by kdmercer311
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that as required is another way of saying optional?

I went with the bright red bushings. Definitely not rubber. Is this there a sleeve that is not shown at the pivot of my I-beam? Or is that what 3B177 is??
MY guess would be, if something wasn't sitting right and a shim was needed to correct that, then it was used... meaning there is no way to tell which side it originally came from without looking at pics. It is obviously required because it had it originally.. must need to be shimmed on one side, not the other.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by ihcc104
MY guess would be, if something wasn't sitting right and a shim was needed to correct that, then it was used... meaning there is no way to tell which side it originally came from without looking at pics. It is obviously required because it had it originally.. must need to be shimmed on one side, not the other.

Excellent point... Wish I remembered which side. I'll probably have to put it all together and drive it to see where it is needed. Would a big rig Shop be able to tell me with an alignment?
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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Originally Posted by kdmercer311
I'm going to go out on a limb here and guess that as required is another way of saying optional?
Maybe yes, maybe no...it depends.

I went with the bright red bushings. Definitely not rubber. Is this there a sleeve that is not shown at the pivot of my I-beam?

Or is that what 3B177 is??
3B177 = Axle (I-Beam) pivot bushing.
AR (As Required): Maybe both springs need them, maybe only one spring needs it, maybe neither spring needs it!

Unless the front end is sagging like an old sway backed nag, forget it!
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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Reconditioned the front suspension approx. 15 years ago, went with the rubber spindle bushings and found they did not hold up as well as I would have expected effecting front end alignment. A few months ago replaced with the 'red' polyurethane bushings; to early to tell, seems much improved. IMO, if the spacer/busing were present before disassembling then install when reassembling. Found most important in maintaining front end alignment is following the front suspension torque values, to include the 'idle arm'.
 
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Originally Posted by daveengelson
Reconditioned the front suspension approx. 15 years ago, went with the rubber spindle bushings and found they did not hold up as well as I would have expected effecting front end alignment. A few months ago replaced with the 'red' polyurethane bushings; to early to tell, seems much improved. IMO, if the spacer/busing were present before disassembling then install when reassembling. Found most important in maintaining front end alignment is following the front suspension torque values, to include the 'idle arm'.

I've read that many times while trolling post here on FTE. Where would one find said torque values for the front suspension?
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 06:01 PM
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Originally Posted by daveengelson

Found most important in maintaining front end alignment is following the front suspension torque values, to include the 'idle arm.'
What is an idle arm? The only 'trucks' with an idler arm are 1957/79 Ranchero's.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
What is an idle arm? The only 'trucks' with an idler arm are 1957/79 Ranchero's.
Sorry, misspoke; after posting comment been awaiting with baited breath for FTE member's to respond, believe I am referring to the dohickie, believe referred to the the 'pit arm' that attaches the steering box arm to the tie rod assembly??
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 06:42 PM
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Originally Posted by daveengelson
Sorry, misspoke; after posting comment been awaiting with baited breath for FTE member's to respond, believe I am referring to the dohickie, believe referred to the the 'pit arm' that attaches the steering box arm to the tie rod assembly??
Pitman Arm attaches to the sector shaft of the steering gear box on one end, to the draglink on the other end.

Inner tie rod end attaches to draglink that then extends to the right steering arm.

Inner tie rod end (Ford calls it the right side) attaches to the left tie rod with a threaded sleeve w/clamps, then routes to the left steering arm.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 06:49 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Unless the front end is sagging like an old sway backed nag, forget it!

Noted. Back to these fabled torque specs I've read so much about....
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kdmercer311
I've read that many times while trolling post here on FTE. Where would one find said torque values according to for the front suspension?
With regards to the front suspension torque values, swapped the 65 front drum for 76 F150 front disc as the donor; unfortunately can not recall what I used as a reference source; strongly suggest verifying torque values to spec's according to one's application!!


Torque Values:

Radius Arm at Frame: 90 ft. lbs.
Radius Arm at I Beam: 1” bolt x 12: 240 ft. lbs.
Shock Absorber: 22 ft. lbs top
Shock Absorber : 45 ft. lbs. bottom
Idler Arm to wheel backing plate: 45 ft. lbs.
Wheel bearing nut: 17-25 ft. lbs.

For what it is worth??
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 07:22 PM
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Originally Posted by NumberDummy
Pitman Arm attaches to the sector shaft of the steering gear box on one end, to the draglink on the other end.

Inner tie rod end attaches to draglink that then extends to the right steering arm.

Inner tie rod end (Ford calls it the right side) attaches to the left tie rod with a threaded sleeve w/clamps, then routes to the left steering arm.
Thank you Bill, greatly appreciate the information, I now understand what dohickies are required make up the front suspension assembly.
 
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