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Old May 30, 2017 | 10:49 AM
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Need help finding the correct bellhousing

So I went to the wrecking yard this weekend and pulled a np435 for about 40 dollars which was a steal but I pulled it off a big block in a 66 f100. I want to put it on a 5.0 fuel injected that currently only has a flex plate on it, and I want to know how to figure out what length of bellhousing to get for the length of the input shaft on the np435 or what input shaft and bellhousing to get. Also what clutch to get and flywheel. Any info appreciated, thx!
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 11:26 AM
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I have the bell housings for these trucks listed here: Bell Housings - ???Gary's Garagemahal. And you either need E3TZ 7505-D if you have an 80-83 truck, or E4TZ 7505-C if you have an 84 or later truck. That's because the early trucks used a mechanical linkage and the later trucks used a hydraulic linkage.

But, the big block tranny may have a longer input shaft than a small block tranny. However, I don't think that is the case as I have the transmission applications shown here (Manual Transmissions - ???Gary's Garagemahal) and it says "6 & 8" under Cyl and "All" under C.I.D. So, it would appear that the same NP435 was used on all engines.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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Be careful on the 302. Besides the hydraulic clutch thing, you also have the re-balance that Ford did around 1982. So make sure you get a later 50oz imbalance flywheel for your later 302.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Thetech101
So I went to the wrecking yard this weekend and pulled a np435 for about 40 dollars which was a steal but I pulled it off a big block in a 66 f100. I want to put it on a 5.0 fuel injected that currently only has a flex plate on it, and I want to know how to figure out what length of bellhousing to get for the length of the input shaft on the np435 or what input shaft and bellhousing to get. Also what clutch to get and flywheel. Any info appreciated, thx!
1966 F100 352 vs 1980's truck: NP 435 trans case, extension housing, input shaft, flywheel, bell housing and etc. are all different.

IMO, get a NP435 or Warner T-18 4 speed and the correct bell housing and flywheel from a 1980/96 2WD (edit: 4WD) truck w/a 302.

Excepting 1983 F250/350 6.9L & 460 that have a hydraulic clutch, all other 1980/83 F100/350's have mechanical clutch linkage.

1984/96: All F150/350's and Bronco's have a hydraulic clutch.
 

Last edited by NumberDummy; May 30, 2017 at 01:35 PM. Reason: Since you have an IHC 4WD Scout, 2WD parts will not work.
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Old May 30, 2017 | 12:57 PM
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so id be better off selling it and getting one directly off a 302/5.0
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 01:03 PM
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oh and the engine was pulled from a 84 or later t bird
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 01:10 PM
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Are you sure this 1966 F100 had the New Process 435?

1966 F100 2WD & 4WD were available with either the Warner T-18 (1965 thru circa 1972: reverse is up-towards the dash) or New Process 435 (reverse is down-towards the seat).

Warner T-18 shift lever cap (8MTH-7220) threads off/on.

New Process 435 shift lever cap (B8T-7220-D) has two notches, is retained to the shift tower with two pins.

To remove this cap, it must be pressed down by hand and held down while turning it counterclockwise to remove it.

People unaware use pliers or channel locks to remove it, which tears out one or both of the notches. Not pleasant!
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Thetech101
so id be better off selling it and getting one directly off a 302/5.0
Yes, as long as that tranny was original to the truck.

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oh and the engine was pulled from a 84 or later t bird
So, you have the wrong pan. And, what engine was originally in your truck?
 
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im sure it is because the vin plate had an A under transmission which on a 66 means it was a np435 and the top cover is aluminum, i dont know where reverse is because they cut the shifter off for some reason
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
Yes, as long as that tranny was original to the truck.

So, you have the wrong pan. And, what engine was originally in your truck?
my truck is a 62 international scout 80 that i want to throw the 5.0 into and have been looking for either a np435 or a t18 because they adapt to my dana 18 transfer case
 
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Originally Posted by Thetech101
im sure it is because the vin plate had an A under transmission which on a 66 means it was a np435 and the top cover is aluminum, i dont know where reverse is because they cut the shifter off for some reason
TRANS code A:

1963/65 Ford type 3.03 3 speed manual.

1966/87: New Process 435 4 speed, reverse is down, towards the seat.

Geez Louise, you want to install this combo in a 4WD "cornbinder!" I wish you had said this "up front" because it would have saved us a lot of extra typing.

You will need to find a 1980/96 F150/250 4WD or Bronco with a 302, because 2WD parts will not work.
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 01:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Thetech101
my truck is a 62 international scout 80 that i want to throw the 5.0 into and have been looking for either a np435 or a t18 because they adapt to my dana 18 transfer case
You found a 1966 transmission and want to put it into a Binder, so thought to ask a bunch of 1980 - 86 Ford nuts/gurus? Please help me understand the logic in that!

Ok, so maybe it isn't the wrong pan - I have no clue if a Scout needs a front or rear sump pan. As for the tranny, why do you want an NP435? Yes, it has a serious 1st gear, but so do the T18's and T19's, as well as the ZF5, and the latter also has an OD.

But, you will have to think through the clutch linkage. Is a hydro unit available for the Scout?
 
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Originally Posted by Gary Lewis
You found a 1966 transmission and want to put it into a Binder, so thought to ask a bunch of 1980 - 86 Ford nuts/gurus? Please help me understand the logic in that!
Considering on how popular "cornbiner" Scout's are, would assume that there's a website for them.

From what I've read in magazines, a popular swap is a Chevy V8, but would assume that on a Scout website, people would have also installed a Ford 302 or 351W in them.

There's very little that we can tell the OP about this swap. For example, I know quite a bit about Fords, but know less about "cornbinders" than a mule knows about tap dancing!
 
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Old May 30, 2017 | 02:49 PM
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There's very little that we can tell the OP about this swap. For example, I know quite a bit about Fords, but know less about "cornbinders" than a mule knows about tap dancing!
https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...9743&FORM=VIRE
 
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Apparently some mules can really tap dance.
 
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