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Old May 28, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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You've got the idea. Triple check all your measurements. If you provide the year, model, engine, wheelbase and cab/bed config I should be able to get you a diagram.
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Old May 28, 2017 | 12:41 PM
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yes. Loosen the bolts and align the bed/cab
OK I will measure first just to check out possibilities but I will realign regardless. When I realign if the bed bolt holes do not line up with the elongations already there should I drill new holes and what about the existing elongations. Should they be welded up to maintain frame strength?
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by barnym17
Unlike glenn I will take it without the new seat and hide it in my garage so no one has to see that terrible unsightly issue,lol
Unfortunately the longer you wait until shipment date 6-5-17 the refund price goes DOWNNNNNN. Right now I probably would only get about 50% of my money back. Let me think about it as I don't like going back on my word but "money changes everything".
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 04:06 PM
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If the truck drives straight down the road and the tires wear evenly then it is just a question of getting the bed on straight.

Any truck that shines like that has to be good.
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by HardScrabble
If the truck drives straight down the road and the tires wear evenly then it is just a question of getting the bed on straight.

Any truck that shines like that has to be good.
Thanks. My son and I are moving the bed tomorrow. So I should know soon how it works out. I will get him to take it down the road with me following and check for crabbing etc. I will post results tomorrow.
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 07:49 PM
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Originally Posted by sandymane
OK I will measure first just to check out possibilities but I will realign regardless. When I realign if the bed bolt holes do not line up with the elongations already there should I drill new holes and what about the existing elongations. Should they be welded up to maintain frame strength?
If you need to oblong holes in the body, bed or frame to get correct alignment, there is something bent
 
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Old May 28, 2017 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
If you need to oblong holes in the body, bed or frame to get correct alignment, there is something bent
Agreed. I mentioned the holes on the driver side bed had been elongated already. That is the side that is farther away from the cab. So something has happened but I don't see it yet. I think the holes have been elongated enough already to align the bed. The bed has recently been off for paint but I didn't see it off. The alignment was noticed beforehand and they were to align it but didn't. I told them I would take care of it.

When I get them aligned tomorrow I should be able to see what is going on.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 01:50 PM
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Pull a string down the side of the truck and you can see the alignment clearly.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 02:27 PM
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We moved the bed today and can not get proper alignment. The problem is when trying to align the bed to cab, the rear bumper curve on the driver side is preventing further movement of the bed for alignment. If the bumper was moved toward the driver side, the bed and cab would line up. I'm not saying all would be straight if I did that but the bed to cab would be. If frame alignment is bad, the holes will not line up but I can't determine that yet until I get the bumper figured out. I hope I am making myself clear. If not pls ask.

The shop that painted the truck is also a high end body shop and I am going to get their opinion next week about the bumper and alignment. I still see no sign of a wreck or damage unless it was the rear bumper and it would have to have been replaced along with the support brackets. The elongations of the holes in the frame on the driver side still mean something has happened somewhere.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 08:36 PM
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Your frame is in a diamond most likely. Either one side has been knocked forward, or the other knocked back. I had that happen to my '87 when a guy hit me on the right rear. It only rolled the end of the bumper under, but knocked it out over an inch.

You will need to get it checked or find the check points yourself and measure it out. I don't remember where and how we checked mine since it was way back in '92.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 09:17 PM
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Your frame is in a diamond most likely. Either one side has been knocked forward, or the other knocked back. I had that happen to my '87 when a guy hit me on the right rear. It only rolled the end of the bumper under, but knocked it out over an inch.

You will need to get it checked or find the check points yourself and measure it out. I don't remember where and how we checked mine since it was way back in '92.
After yours was hit did you fix it? If so, what did it take. The guys that did my paint still owe me for a few things so hopefully I can get it resolved.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 09:39 PM
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A friend of mine had a frame machine. We measured it, chained it down, and spent most of the day getting it pulled back straight. We could get it pulled back to spec, but it would shift back as soon as the pressure was released.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 09:47 PM
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A friend of mine had a frame machine. We measured it, chained it down, and spent most of the day getting it pulled back straight. We could get it pulled back to spec, but it would shift back as soon as the pressure was released.
Well that doesn't sound fun. At least you tried. As I said above the guys that did the paint for me are high end body guys. All the Euro dealers take their cars there. I have seem em smashed up pretty good being repaired. Hopefully they can help me out on this. When I find out what they have to say I will reply. Thanks Sandy
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 10:43 PM
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We finally got it to stay into place. The guy specialized in buying wrecked F150s and repairing them,. He said this was the hardest to straighten he had found.

We pulled it almost 2" past square and beat the cross members with a sledge hammer. After several times of that, it stayed in place. He is the type of guy who does not believe in tolerances. It's either exactly square, or it's out of spec. Still driving it all these years later.
 
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Old May 29, 2017 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by yardbird
We finally got it to stay into place. The guy specialized in buying wrecked F150s and repairing them,. He said this was the hardest to straighten he had found.

We pulled it almost 2" past square and beat the cross members with a sledge hammer. After several times of that, it stayed in place. He is the type of guy who does not believe in tolerances. It's either exactly square, or it's out of spec. Still driving it all these years later.
Awesome. Glad you saved it. Gotta love a success story.
 
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