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Old May 17, 2017 | 10:24 PM
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Brakes hoses

I am looking for the part numbers for flex brake hoses for my truck.
Anyone who of a good supplier as well?

There starting to look poorly.

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Old May 18, 2017 | 04:48 AM
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IIRC I went with Crown hoses, they are ok I guess. Not cheap though!

http://www.crownperformance.com/f-250-f-350-superduty/

Russell makes them also

https://www.summitracing.com/parts/rus-696510/reviews/
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 05:25 AM
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I went with Russell's. The only problem was the thin aluminum seals I got with my kit leaked. I got some good copper seals and problem solved.

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Old May 18, 2017 | 06:10 AM
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I went OEM as nobody gives any love to 2wd trucks.
I attempted to reuse the copper gaskets at the hose to caliper connection because I forgot to buy them during the week. Invest the $10 and get yourself some new gaskets when you buy hoses.
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 06:43 AM
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If anyone gets into the situation of needing to reuse the copper washers heat them until they glow red then let them cool naturally. It will soften them for reuse.
 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 08:28 AM
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Good idea, as the newer "included" replacement crush washers are substantially thinner.

I also went with Crown Braided SS lines which added significant pedal feedback over stock.

 
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Old May 18, 2017 | 08:57 AM
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Usually at any fluid change there is an improvement in pedal distance, which is subjectively interpreted as better braking. However, a decrease in pedal travel also improves the maximum hydraulic pressure obtained during a "panic stop", or max decel event. And that has to do with booster runout, especially with a vacuum booster.

The Superdutys have a lot of brake hose compared to other vehicles, long fronts and the rear caliper hoses. The hoses OE equipped do have a low expansion rate, aftermarket ones tend to be standard fair, with of course the exception of well made braided units. I'm still on my factory hoses after 15 years without issue, although it's about time.

Not sure anyone is interested but I could show the booster issue.
 
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Old May 20, 2017 | 12:30 AM
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Jack the rear caliper hoses are short. The axel to frame has some length to it.
 
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Yeah I know very, very well Sean. But those add to the overall total length of hose that is exposed to pressure and expand compared to the hard lined rear drum brakes which preceded this design. You can just go with the historical three, two fronts and the rear drop as the rear caliper hoses don't add all that much.

Front Left+ Front Right + Axle Drop + Rear Left + Rear Right = a hell of a lot of hose.

And during a high pressure panic stop a hydroboost system provides a higher hydraulic pressure then the vacuum boosted trucks so there's more potential.
 
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Originally Posted by Benchwrench
Good idea, as the newer "included" replacement crush washers are substantially thinner. .........
At the test facility we used to stock an early Ford crush washer part number that was thicker then normal and worked in most applications. I just can't remember what the part number was. But it's thickness appeared to provide more compliance.
 
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Old May 20, 2017 | 01:38 PM
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Why do the Russell brand lines from Summit say "with 6" lift" in the description?

Won't they be to long for a stock truck that doesn't have a lift kit? It's the only option they show available for 06. Just want to clarify before ordering.
 
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The only thing I can add is that the only brake hose failures I've personally experienced, where the actual hose failed, was with SS braided lines on the race car. You either changed them proactively or (for me) went back to stock and won races instead of fixing chit in the pits... This was on a 911 which didn't have poor stock hoses either... YMMV
 
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Russel only makes them for lifted trucks.

Scott, the problem is historically the TFE hoses were never built to DOT specs, often stated as meeting or better then. It was BS. There is a very stringent standard.
 
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Old May 20, 2017 | 08:54 PM
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The Russel 4 inch fit my stock Excursion. Found a set on CL for $20. With a fluid change and these I have a firmer higher pedal now.
 
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Old May 20, 2017 | 09:10 PM
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Originally Posted by lightflyer
The Russel 4 inch fit my stock Excursion. Found a set on CL for $20. With a fluid change and these I have a firmer higher pedal now.
Jack stated this earlier, but the fluid makes a bigger difference than the hoses. and that is one thing I do know for sure...
 
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