Differences between '40 & '41's 1 -1/2 ton's
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Differences between '40 & '41's 1 -1/2 ton's
Hi guy's,
It's been a while since I've been on- life get's in the way and leaves little free time sometimes.
Anyway, I saw an article in Vintage Firetruck magazine about a '40 ton and a half Regular and was curious about the differences compared to my 41 ton and a half. My 41 used to be a firetruck but it was converted to a flat bed by the previous owner.
Why did the 40 come with, I think, 6 or 650-20 tires and mine has 750-20's? Did Ford make a change? My hood ornamentation does not have the engine horsepower on it. How do I tell if I have the 85 or 95 horsepower engine? Also, just what makes a chassis a "Regular"?
Just trying to figure out exactly what I have here and you guys are more knowledgeable about this era of Ford's than I am.
Thanks guy's.
Steve
P.S.- To add to another post- this site is also, by far, the slowest website I visit. It has actually prevented me from posting because it would take too long to load, or type the thread. Very disappointing and maddening to say the least. My brother inlaw's computer is faster but it's not great. Oh well.
It's been a while since I've been on- life get's in the way and leaves little free time sometimes.
Anyway, I saw an article in Vintage Firetruck magazine about a '40 ton and a half Regular and was curious about the differences compared to my 41 ton and a half. My 41 used to be a firetruck but it was converted to a flat bed by the previous owner.
Why did the 40 come with, I think, 6 or 650-20 tires and mine has 750-20's? Did Ford make a change? My hood ornamentation does not have the engine horsepower on it. How do I tell if I have the 85 or 95 horsepower engine? Also, just what makes a chassis a "Regular"?
Just trying to figure out exactly what I have here and you guys are more knowledgeable about this era of Ford's than I am.
Thanks guy's.
Steve
P.S.- To add to another post- this site is also, by far, the slowest website I visit. It has actually prevented me from posting because it would take too long to load, or type the thread. Very disappointing and maddening to say the least. My brother inlaw's computer is faster but it's not great. Oh well.
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Steve
I don't own a 1 1/2 ton truck, but I have owned a '41 Tonner.
Regarding the trim etc - in 1940 the hoods (& hubcaps on Tonners) were stamped with 'V8'. But in 1941 the 6 cylinder engine was made available, so 'V8' was replaced with the 'Ford' script on hubcaps; & the 'V/8" stamping was dropped from the hood sides.
But two nickel plated 'Ford' script badges (same as on the dash) were added to the hood, & only 2x vertical stainless bars were used on the grill, instead of 16x on '40 trucks.
The '40 front hood trim had the small round '85' or '95' on it according to the engine size, but in '41 this was deleted on the new, wide hood trim.
IDK of a way to distinguish the engine size without taking a head off, but someone else might.
'Regular' just referred to a conventional, long-hood truck......vs a COE (cab over engine).
I don't own a 1 1/2 ton truck, but I have owned a '41 Tonner.
Regarding the trim etc - in 1940 the hoods (& hubcaps on Tonners) were stamped with 'V8'. But in 1941 the 6 cylinder engine was made available, so 'V8' was replaced with the 'Ford' script on hubcaps; & the 'V/8" stamping was dropped from the hood sides.
But two nickel plated 'Ford' script badges (same as on the dash) were added to the hood, & only 2x vertical stainless bars were used on the grill, instead of 16x on '40 trucks.
The '40 front hood trim had the small round '85' or '95' on it according to the engine size, but in '41 this was deleted on the new, wide hood trim.
IDK of a way to distinguish the engine size without taking a head off, but someone else might.
'Regular' just referred to a conventional, long-hood truck......vs a COE (cab over engine).
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I very much doubt there was any difference between wheel and tire equipment specifications 1940 versus 1941. These below pages are from the 1941 Ford V8 Trucks & Commercial Cars Sales Manual & Reference Book. They show a variety of optional tire sizes offered.
I should also note the references made to wheel width. During these years the National Wheel and Rim Association (NWRA) standards called for measurements to be made across the outer rim lips. Thus the mention of 5", 6", and 7" rims. During the 1940s the NWRA standard changed and rim width then and now is measured across the inner rim base. A 5" rim became a 3.75" rim, 6" became a 4.33", and 7" became a 5.00". The Ford Chassis Catalog (Green Bible) reflects the old NWRA standard. Stu
I should also note the references made to wheel width. During these years the National Wheel and Rim Association (NWRA) standards called for measurements to be made across the outer rim lips. Thus the mention of 5", 6", and 7" rims. During the 1940s the NWRA standard changed and rim width then and now is measured across the inner rim base. A 5" rim became a 3.75" rim, 6" became a 4.33", and 7" became a 5.00". The Ford Chassis Catalog (Green Bible) reflects the old NWRA standard. Stu
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All of the above is very interesting! That clears up a lot.
I never gave any thought to "regular" as opposed to the COE trucks. And I do have the 6.67 rear end, which is why I'm not liked on the faster roads around town, lol. Thanks guys. -Steve
I never gave any thought to "regular" as opposed to the COE trucks. And I do have the 6.67 rear end, which is why I'm not liked on the faster roads around town, lol. Thanks guys. -Steve
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