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My bad on my math... Yours is correct, of course... my apologies.
Speaking of "math", I find the 11,400 GVWR spec on the cert label and on the window sticker (third N/C item) vs the payload-based 10,600 to be interesting.
3,968 payload + 6,336 (base model curb weight spec) + 296 (est. weight of options) = 10,600
Our 350 CCSB 4x2 gasser w/ 18" A/S tires is a "light weight". Our NC registration indicates the ship weight was 6,124 lbs., which seems about right right for a base model of our truck with little-to-no gas in the tank (6336 - 214 = 6,122 lbs.).
Load range "E" just means the maximum load capacity is based on 80 psi inflation pressure. The actual capacity still varies by tire size.
HTH,
Jim / crewzer
You are correct, the larger the air chamber, the more weight it can hold. I should have been more specific and said that as long as the tires are the same size, they're rated for the same weight regardless of 250/350.
I didn't know about the TPMS, that's bummer. I don't understand the tire following the ruts comment, is that because of the wide track?
I may have to go with the F350 because of the payload: I need 5140 lb (700 passengers, 900 bed tool box/60 gal tank combo, 3200 pin weight, 340 air ride hitch and puck adapter plate). Plus I want to add a Tonneau.
However,I do like the idea of the F450 for better turning, brakes, and wheels. I don't believe I would be over the rear axle rating and it seems the F450 GVWR is under rated, if it was 14,500 I would be right there.
A little late with my comments, but I'll add, anyway. We lived 8 yrs with a 2009 F450. Commercial tires have a lot going for them. I always felt they handle road hazards better than the typical 17 inch truck tire. However, the commercial tires just wander a little, and I though they rode a little rougher. Our biggest hassles were getting them balanced and finding new tires when we had an issue. Apparently, not every tire shop can handle 19.5 inch wheels. We did fine in Fresno, CA and Atlanta, GA (same day service). However, Portland, OR...not so good.
Also, we had a 50 gal transfer flow tank in the bed of our F450 to complement the 38 gal OEM tank. Our 2017's range with it's 48 gal OEM tank is just find. We're getting about 1.0-1.5 mpg better in the 2017 than our 2009, and we've decided to not add another in-bed tank.
We went with a F350 because that's the first one we got to test drive and it was so nice, we just went ahead and ordered one. Might have made a different choice if we'd driven a F450 first.
Here's how our sticker looks. We're a 2017 F350 Platinum DRW 4X4. We pull a 2011 DRV Mobile Suites (MS) 36 RSSB3 with vanity slide, residential frig, generator, and 4 batteries. Depending on how much water we carry, our MS runs between 18,400 and 19,000 lbs. Our hitch weight is about 4,300 lbs.
A little late with my comments, but I'll add, anyway. We lived 8 yrs with a 2009 F450. Commercial tires have a lot going for them. I always felt they handle road hazards better than the typical 17 inch truck tire. However, the commercial tires just wander a little, and I though they rode a little rougher. Our biggest hassles were getting them balanced and finding new tires when we had an issue. Apparently, not every tire shop can handle 19.5 inch wheels. We did fine in Fresno, CA and Atlanta, GA (same day service). However, Portland, OR...not so good.
Also, we had a 50 gal transfer flow tank in the bed of our F450 to complement the 38 gal OEM tank. Our 2017's range with it's 48 gal OEM tank is just find. We're getting about 1.0-1.5 mpg better in the 2017 than our 2009, and we've decided to not add another in-bed tank.
We went with a F350 because that's the first one we got to test drive and it was so nice, we just went ahead and ordered one. Might have made a different choice if we'd driven a F450 first.
Here's how our sticker looks. We're a 2017 F350 Platinum DRW 4X4. We pull a 2011 DRV Mobile Suites (MS) 36 RSSB3 with vanity slide, residential frig, generator, and 4 batteries. Depending on how much water we carry, our MS runs between 18,400 and 19,000 lbs. Our hitch weight is about 4,300 lbs.
David
Thank you for the feedback David. What axle ratio did you go with on your new F350 ? Also, have you missed having the wide track on your previous F450 ? thanks!
Thank you for the feedback David. What axle ratio did you go with on your new F350 ? Also, have you missed having the wide track on your previous F450 ? thanks!
We went with the 4.10, but probably would have been fine with the 3.55. We'd ordered ours before the threads discussing whether one needs the 4.10 or not really kicked in. Once I started reading those threads, it was too late. Just FYI: In 2016 Ford had a high capacity tow package F350 that gave you the the 4.30 rear end (I believe), 4X4 and the wide-track front end. We ordered as close to that as we could.
We do miss the quicker turn radius, but it's not the end of the world, either. My biggest problem when we got the new truck was to quit parking it at Walmart as if we still had the F450. Now that we're more use to the truck and plan for it's turn radius, it's not as big of an issue. When we test drove a new F350, we did take it into a small, tight parking lot just to see how it would be and felt it was fine at the time.
May not be the easiest or most convenient thing to do, but if you can try to find and test drive each. I'm confident a 2017 F450 drives better than our 2009 F450. Some people way more sensitive to how the commercial tires handle than others. When we got new tires, we'd drive the truck and see how it handled. Then adjust the tire pressures to get them handling the way we wanted.
It's just that I got stuck in Portland, OR where I couldn't get tire service. And that totally caught me off guard as we had tires issues, and I went there thinking the town would be big enough to support these tires. I could understand that occurring in International Falls, MN. But Portland, OR?? Since then we've run across several shops that just couldn't handle the 19.5 inch wheels. It was just one more hassle I'm trying to remove. Still gotta deal with dealers with no diesel tech and stalls too small for a DRW pickup, though. When you choose to live on the edge of civilization as a full time RVer, it's just a cost of the lifestyle.
Enjoy shopping for that new truck! I think you'll be happy with which ever one you choose to go with. David
Last edited by Davydee; May 23, 2017 at 08:21 AM.
Reason: Spelling...always spelling...
Thank you for the feedback David. What axle ratio did you go with on your new F350 ? Also, have you missed having the wide track on your previous F450 ? thanks!
Part II. Forgot to add that I miss the notoriety of having a F450.
Are you sure about this? Are the tires the same on the 350/250, the only difference being the stickers tells you to inflate to only 60?
I don't have a 5er now but may consider one in the future, so I can actually get more payload that would be a relief
The 250 equipped with hd tow package has the same rear axle (dana m275) as the 350 SRW. Also has an overload spring and the snubbers on top of the spring pack. but it one leaf less in the main pack.
Both use the same tires basically
You can add an overload to your springs if you dont already have them, or do airbags as mentioned before. Just be mindful of your tire and the rating for whichever axle you have and you will be fine.
Yours is correct, of course... my apologies.
Our NC registration indicates the ship weight was 6,124 lbs., which seems about right right for a base model of our truck with little-to-no gas in the tank (6336 - 214 = 6,122 lbs.).
