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Old May 12, 2017 | 11:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 2009kr
I strongly recommend the F450. The wide track axle with its tight turning is worth it alone. The commercial tires, bigger brakes, and nice stance are a bonus. Personally, I like the 4.30 gears and get relatively good mileage with them.

The downsides are $3k more, possibly higher insurance, tires follow ruts on bad roads, fewer tire options, and no TPMS. The F450 is also about 500# heavier than the F350 DRW. My payload (loaded KR) is 4751. With 900# of people / dog, 150# hitch, 75# tonneau, 2600# pin, and 250# firewood, I have 775# of payload left. I'd be several hundred pounds over if I got the SRW.
I didn't know about the TPMS, that's bummer. I don't understand the tire following the ruts comment, is that because of the wide track?
I may have to go with the F350 because of the payload: I need 5140 lb (700 passengers, 900 bed tool box/60 gal tank combo, 3200 pin weight, 340 air ride hitch and puck adapter plate). Plus I want to add a Tonneau.

However,I do like the idea of the F450 for better turning, brakes, and wheels. I don't believe I would be over the rear axle rating and it seems the F450 GVWR is under rated, if it was 14,500 I would be right there.
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 06:56 AM
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Just got the 350 DRW.
Was looking at the 450.
Went with the 350 due to:

Not towing all of the time, also my daily.
4.10 on 350 with tires basically equates to 4.30 on 450 with 19s
Greater payload "on paper"
may be reloacting and some states have issues with the 450 on the side.
Had one with wide track and one without (2015 vs 2011), can live without.
$$$, by the time I speced them out together I was getting to the point I was not going to pay that.

For me 350 works.
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 10:16 AM
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Well guys, looks like I royally screwed up this time. I bought this truck as a company vehicle with future plans to pull a 5'er. I use it (sparingly) on occasion on deliveries pulling a gooseneck. The thing I overlooked but have been enlightened to is the GCVW on the F-250. This thing pulls like a freight train but by the time you hook a fifth wheel to it there is not much left for cargo and passengers. Looks like I'll have to pass this one down in a couple of years and get an F-350 SRW. Should have done a little more homework on this one.
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Old May 13, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by BowtieConvert

Well guys, looks like I royally screwed up this time. I bought this truck as a company vehicle with future plans to pull a 5'er. I use it (sparingly) on occasion on deliveries pulling a gooseneck. The thing I overlooked but have been enlightened to is the GCVW on the F-250. This thing pulls like a freight train but by the time you hook a fifth wheel to it there is not much left for cargo and passengers. Looks like I'll have to pass this one down in a couple of years and get an F-350 SRW. Should have done a little more homework on this one.
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Inflate your rear tires to 80 and add rear airbags and it should handle the same payload as an F350.
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 12:38 PM
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2017 F350 DRW XLT 6.7L SuperCab. Have a 5er at 12,500 dry weight.
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 2009kr
Inflate your rear tires to 80 and add rear airbags and it should handle the same payload as an F350.
I'm really glad you posted this. My payload is the same at 2000#. The sole reason for getting out of a 2015 Tundra was to sell our tt and get a 5r. Then finding out the pin weight on the Jayco we want is 2200#. Not to mention the 3 of us and assorted camping junk.

After reading you're post I went back and looked and sure enough, all the srw 350's are listed with 80# for the rear wheels. I'm breathing a bit easier now and will feel even better with confirmation that with the proper inflation and airbags if needed will this solve my dilemma?

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Old May 13, 2017 | 07:27 PM
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2017 F350 SRW, crew cab, short bed, 6.7 diesel, 11500# rating, 20" rims.
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by First3Quarter
I'm really glad you posted this. My payload is the same at 2000#. The sole reason for getting out of a 2015 Tundra was to sell our tt and get a 5r. Then finding out the pin weight on the Jayco we want is 2200#. Not to mention the 3 of us and assorted camping junk.

After reading you're post I went back and looked and sure enough, all the srw 350's are listed with 80# for the rear wheels. I'm breathing a bit easier now and will feel even better with confirmation that with the proper inflation and airbags if needed will this solve my dilemma?

6.7 CCSB 4X4 LUT
Reach out to Karl4cat (Rodney) for more info. He knows a lot about the paper limits of SRW trucks and how to push past them.
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by captcolour
2017 F350 DRW XLT 6.7L SuperCab. Have a 5er at 12,500 dry weight.
dang it, you beat me by just over 300 pounds
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 09:27 PM
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dang it, you beat me by just over 300 pounds
Didn't do it on purpose
 
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Old May 13, 2017 | 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by captcolour
Didn't do it on purpose
Must mostly be the difference between crew cab and super cab. I wouldn't think lariat vs platinum trim would be that much
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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F350 CC Lariat Long Bed SRW 20" Wheels 10,000 rating.

Dealership was trying to stick a D plate on mine (Illinois 8001-12000lbs Flat rate truck) vs a B plate truck (up to 8000).

D plate requires DOT stickers, inspections every 4-6 months, extra fees, carry an inspected fire extinguisher etc. and it's a nightmare to try to change once it's on the books as D.

I said no freaking way, finally had to point out the shipping weight on the invoice from the transporter. Keeping that in the glove box for some confused bureaucrat in the future. Tax/Spend/Overregulate = state motto
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 11:12 AM
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F350 CC Lariat Long Bed SRW 20" Wheels 10,000 rating.
6,690 lbs shipping weight + 3,910 lbs. payload = 10,810 lbs. total... something doesn't add up! What is the GVWR number on the certification label on the B pillar?

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Old May 14, 2017 | 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by SDcrewzer
6,690 lbs shipping weight + 3,910 lbs. payload = 10,810 lbs. total... something doesn't add up! What is the GVWR number on the certification label on the B pillar?

Regards,
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6690+3910=10,600

Sticker says 11,400

See the 4th NO CHARGE down from the window sticker.
 
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Old May 14, 2017 | 12:06 PM
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My bad on my math... Yours is correct, of course... my apologies.

Speaking of "math", I find the 11,400 GVWR spec on the cert label and on the window sticker (third N/C item) vs the payload-based 10,600 to be interesting.

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