VIN Problem - F350 King Ranch
#1
VIN Problem - F350 King Ranch
Evening folks,
Im working on buying a truck and Im hung up on this one diesel truck that I want bad, could be the deal of a life time but there is a problem....
So, I drove 2 hours to pickup a 2007 F350 King Ranch FX4 Crew Cab to keep for the next 48hrs and to test before I make the purchase. The stealership has been great about it. The truck itself on the outside looks like new, immaculate really. The inside, looks great, seats need conditioning but I expected that, everything else seems good. The truck itself runs like a freaking top, probably one of, if not the most powerful 6.0 I have tested!
Now, the problem................ the VIN in the ECM and the VIN on the truck dont match . I have an Autel MaxiDiag diagnostics scanner and I pulled out all the codes, vehicle information and performed 5 different tests on the truck including the injector tests- truck passed with flying colors except two problems, glow plug circuit on cylinder 1 and vin mismatch.
The glow plug circuit cylinder one didnt concern me half as much as the vin mismatch. What does this mean? Should I just forget my dream of owning this truck and run it back as fast as I can? I am suppose to be at TSI Innovations in Johnson City , TN in the morning at 11AM for a full on IDS based diagnostic and overall analysis of the truck - should I just forget it and take it back?
Any help folks would be extremely appreciated!!!
Thanks
Bryan
Im working on buying a truck and Im hung up on this one diesel truck that I want bad, could be the deal of a life time but there is a problem....
So, I drove 2 hours to pickup a 2007 F350 King Ranch FX4 Crew Cab to keep for the next 48hrs and to test before I make the purchase. The stealership has been great about it. The truck itself on the outside looks like new, immaculate really. The inside, looks great, seats need conditioning but I expected that, everything else seems good. The truck itself runs like a freaking top, probably one of, if not the most powerful 6.0 I have tested!
Now, the problem................ the VIN in the ECM and the VIN on the truck dont match . I have an Autel MaxiDiag diagnostics scanner and I pulled out all the codes, vehicle information and performed 5 different tests on the truck including the injector tests- truck passed with flying colors except two problems, glow plug circuit on cylinder 1 and vin mismatch.
The glow plug circuit cylinder one didnt concern me half as much as the vin mismatch. What does this mean? Should I just forget my dream of owning this truck and run it back as fast as I can? I am suppose to be at TSI Innovations in Johnson City , TN in the morning at 11AM for a full on IDS based diagnostic and overall analysis of the truck - should I just forget it and take it back?
Any help folks would be extremely appreciated!!!
Thanks
Bryan
#2
Evening folks,
Im working on buying a truck and Im hung up on this one diesel truck that I want bad, could be the deal of a life time but there is a problem....
So, I drove 2 hours to pickup a 2007 F350 King Ranch FX4 Crew Cab to keep for the next 48hrs and to test before I make the purchase. The stealership has been great about it. The truck itself on the outside looks like new, immaculate really. The inside, looks great, seats need conditioning but I expected that, everything else seems good. The truck itself runs like a freaking top, probably one of, if not the most powerful 6.0 I have tested!
Now, the problem................ the VIN in the ECM and the VIN on the truck dont match . I have an Autel MaxiDiag diagnostics scanner and I pulled out all the codes, vehicle information and performed 5 different tests on the truck including the injector tests- truck passed with flying colors except two problems, glow plug circuit on cylinder 1 and vin mismatch.
The glow plug circuit cylinder one didnt concern me half as much as the vin mismatch. What does this mean? Should I just forget my dream of owning this truck and run it back as fast as I can? I am suppose to be at TSI Innovations in Johnson City , TN in the morning at 11AM for a full on IDS based diagnostic and overall analysis of the truck - should I just forget it and take it back?
Any help folks would be extremely appreciated!!!
Thanks
Bryan
Im working on buying a truck and Im hung up on this one diesel truck that I want bad, could be the deal of a life time but there is a problem....
So, I drove 2 hours to pickup a 2007 F350 King Ranch FX4 Crew Cab to keep for the next 48hrs and to test before I make the purchase. The stealership has been great about it. The truck itself on the outside looks like new, immaculate really. The inside, looks great, seats need conditioning but I expected that, everything else seems good. The truck itself runs like a freaking top, probably one of, if not the most powerful 6.0 I have tested!
Now, the problem................ the VIN in the ECM and the VIN on the truck dont match . I have an Autel MaxiDiag diagnostics scanner and I pulled out all the codes, vehicle information and performed 5 different tests on the truck including the injector tests- truck passed with flying colors except two problems, glow plug circuit on cylinder 1 and vin mismatch.
The glow plug circuit cylinder one didnt concern me half as much as the vin mismatch. What does this mean? Should I just forget my dream of owning this truck and run it back as fast as I can? I am suppose to be at TSI Innovations in Johnson City , TN in the morning at 11AM for a full on IDS based diagnostic and overall analysis of the truck - should I just forget it and take it back?
Any help folks would be extremely appreciated!!!
Thanks
Bryan
You need to post over at the 6.0 forum side, this way you get the best help this forum has to offer. I don't have answer for you but someone at the 6.0 side will.
Be sure you get a scangaugeII or torque pro app to read the sensors/PID's.
If everything checks out, I personally, would care less about the a vin mismatch. As long as everything is on the up and up with the Dept of Motor Vehicles.
-Preston
#3
Thanks!
Will do, thanks ! Will the scan gauge pickup things my Maxidiag wont?
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Will do, thanks ! Will the scan gauge pickup things my Maxidiag wont?
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- Preston
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The ECU could have been replaced for some reason and they used an ECU from another truck, is the VIN completely different or just a letter or number off?? I know in some states the ECU VIN has to match the chassis VIN or they won't pass it for emissions , then you can't get plates for the truck, I'd find out for sure it it's going to be a problem by going to the DMV and asking them first. Maybe the dealership can go in and enter the correct VIN into it?
#7
The number on the ECM should be the Ford ID engineering number (similar to this: XXXX-12A650-XX) that can be crossed over to the Ford part number of the ECM
Most Ford electrical related parts beginning in the 1970's have an ID engineering number marked on them.
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#10
Do the title, vin on the door, and the vin on the dash under the wishield all match?
Those are the ones I would worry about. Might be worth a call to your DMV and ask the same question.
I dont see it being hard to have the ecm vin changed. Worst case is buy a new one and have your vin loaded into ot
Those are the ones I would worry about. Might be worth a call to your DMV and ask the same question.
I dont see it being hard to have the ecm vin changed. Worst case is buy a new one and have your vin loaded into ot
#11
Thanks
I just wanted to say thanks for the replies, however it turned out that was the least of my concerns. It ended up needing glow plugs, a set of injectors and a transfer case after we got the IDS on it.....
They said it had already been deleted, studded, straight piped and reprogrammed - so it would seem the previous owner had done some heavy lifting but by the time it needed injectors and the transfer case they were done with it.
Bill was going to be $4800....so I returned it and now im back to the drawing board.
They said it had already been deleted, studded, straight piped and reprogrammed - so it would seem the previous owner had done some heavy lifting but by the time it needed injectors and the transfer case they were done with it.
Bill was going to be $4800....so I returned it and now im back to the drawing board.
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I just wanted to say thanks for the replies, however it turned out that was the least of my concerns. It ended up needing glow plugs, a set of injectors and a transfer case after we got the IDS on it.....
They said it had already been deleted, studded, straight piped and reprogrammed - so it would seem the previous owner had done some heavy lifting but by the time it needed injectors and the transfer case they were done with it.
Bill was going to be $4800....so I returned it and now im back to the drawing board.
They said it had already been deleted, studded, straight piped and reprogrammed - so it would seem the previous owner had done some heavy lifting but by the time it needed injectors and the transfer case they were done with it.
Bill was going to be $4800....so I returned it and now im back to the drawing board.
#14
I just wanted to say thanks for the replies, however it turned out that was the least of my concerns. It ended up needing glow plugs, a set of injectors and a transfer case after we got the IDS on it.....
They said it had already been deleted, studded, straight piped and reprogrammed - so it would seem the previous owner had done some heavy lifting but by the time it needed injectors and the transfer case they were done with it.
Bill was going to be $4800....so I returned it and now im back to the drawing board.
They said it had already been deleted, studded, straight piped and reprogrammed - so it would seem the previous owner had done some heavy lifting but by the time it needed injectors and the transfer case they were done with it.
Bill was going to be $4800....so I returned it and now im back to the drawing board.
The main things is you found out before YOU got stuck with it. Ford made 10's of thousands of these trucks, you can find one, just do what you did with this truck and check every thing you can to avoid being stuck with a problem child.
I didnt ask what your budget was, but one thing you could consider is finding a problem child that you know needs work and then finding a shop that knows what they are doing and bulletproof it. Now that isnt for the faint of heart, but one of the guys at my work did exactly that. He bought a 06 Lariat F350 CC that had head gasket issues and got it for a song, spent 8k having the engine done and bulletproofing it ( no he didnt do the work, got a shop to do it ) and all in he spent just over 11k and she runs like a dream so far.
just a thought
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