So on the PM22 anyone know a good place to get a gallon. I found this site online but not sure about them.

https://www.stockwiseauto.com/motorc...OyBoCGp_w_wcB&

 

A fair number of diesel stations around here promote that they use Power Service in their fuel in the winter time. Should one avoid those places?

 

I've been using Archoil but switching over to EDT from HotShot Secret once I run out. I've been running a fuel additive since the first tank. 5k miles and still 1/2 a tank of DEF left.

 

I was under the impression that additives were bad for EPA screwed diesels, should I start pouring Lucas upper line back into everything?

 

Yes, Power Service is an emulsifier which means it blends the water and fuel into one allowing it through your fuel system (very bad for the 6.7 fuel system). You want a emulsifier which separates water and diesel so the water separator can grab it as best as possible.

 

If you are going to use an additive. Decide what properties you are trying to improve and buy the correct additive for that. ie. If the diesel in you area has low Cetane and you want to boost the Cetane, buy a cetane boost. If you are looking for added lubricity. add a lubricating additive. If you are worried about Gelling in the cold. An AntiGel additive.

 

Thought this was informative.
Cetane Numbers: How diesel fuel?s biggest unknown affects your truck

 

*Disclaimer I am no expert *

Great article, and it backs up the main reason I started using fuel additives with my first tank of fuel in a new truck. The higher the CN, the less soot the engine produces, thus a greater time between regens, less DEF used, and better MPG's. So far this has proven true for me.

 

Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

 

Have to find something to divide it into for single "servings" some other kind of bottles.

 

I mean no disrespect toward you BCooke, however, I don't believe what this report has to say about higher cetane numbers not increasing horsepower or torque. I have a Buddy that races diesel trucks that I sent this article to and he called it BS. He said that he has his dyno sheets that verify the difference in using cetane booster. He's experimented with it with and without on the dyno.


He also works with Dan Scheid who has the FASTEST diesel rail dragster in the U.S. right now and FWIW he uses cetane in ALL of his diesel fuel.

 

Nalgene Wide Mouth Square Storage Bottle (6-Ounce) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002M8CX8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apap_laUbgxbX1CwzG


I used these and they work very well i keep 6 of them under the back seat in the storage compartment and refill five when I am down to one. I keep them in a 1 gallon ziploc just incase but they have never leaked. I use bottles similar to this in my micobiology lab. They last a long time and never leak. I split 1 20oz bottle of pm22 5 ways for 4oz in each bottle which is good for treating 25gal of fuel. I unfortunatly have a 34 gallon with the inaccurate fuel gauge so as soon as the light comes on with 50 miles to go i fuel up and I am able to get about 26gal in so this works out perfectly. Im not too worried about having the ratio exactly right because Texas diesel usually has pretty high cetane already.

 

Thanks for the advice on the bottles, I bought the 4 oz. size that looks like a flask (perfect size). To save some money, I order the PM-22 by the gallon at the dealership. I've been refilling the 20 oz. bottles, but they get slimy and gummy after a while and the lid is hard to get on. These 4 oz. bottles will work nicely. Thanks again.


Oh, and a little story about additive bottles. My buddy has a 2014 Powerstroke. The truck started starving for fuel when under load. If he stopped and shut it off for a few minutes it would run fine. The dealership couldn't figure out what was wrong with it. This went on for some time and he was at wits end with the truck. He finally went home one day and tore the fuel tank off the truck. Low and behold, he found the problem. The fuel pick up in the bottom of the tank has a little cup that sits at the bottom. He looked in that cup and found the little cardboard seal (about the size of a nickel) laying in the bottom of that cup. This seal was one of those seals Ford puts on the PM-22 bottle caps and it had apparently stuck to the top of a bottle of additive he had poured in. He remembered the day and had thought that he'd lost it on the ground, but it stuck to the top of the bottle when he removed the cap, so it was dumped in the tank with the additive.
When the fuel flow increased enough, the seal would raise up and get sucked into the pickup pipe and block the flow enough to starve the engine for fuel. When he shut the engine down, it floated to the bottom ready for the next time he stepped on the throttle a bit too much.
The moral to this story... check your PM-22 bottle seals before dumping it in the tank.

 

Take a look where you buy fuel.

I recently noticed that MurphyMart (@Wally World) says that its diesel is a blend of 5%-20% biodiesel.

Biodiesel is more lubricious and has a higher cetane rating. It also burns cleaner.

So I do not see a need for any additive with this fuel.

 

[QUOTE=Davparks2;17171807]Nalgene Wide Mouth Square Storage Bottle (6-Ounce)
Do you have any problem pouring into the fuel tank opening? Is there a top that you use? I've been using a old Stabil bottle, pouring from a P22 bottle to get the correct measurement, but it can get messy.