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Old 04-22-2017, 07:56 AM
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Does the high capacity package in the f250 diesel increase payload?
 
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Old 04-22-2017, 08:10 AM
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Technically no, it's still a pickup truck with a 10,000 GVWR, even though they raise the GCWR up to something higher, you'll still be limited by that 10,000 lb number
 
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Originally Posted by Fmc4lfe
Does the high capacity package in the f250 diesel increase payload?
Officially, no. According to the January 2017 Order Guide, only the standard 10K lbs. GVWR is available with the F250 High Capacity Trailer Tow Package (Option Code 535).

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Old 04-22-2017, 10:41 AM
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Officially, no. According to the January 2017 Order Guide, only the standard 10K lbs. GVWR is available with the F250 High Capacity Trailer Tow Package (Option Code 535).

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You can do some pretty amazing things with a set of airbags or Super Springs. I've got Super Springs, I think wish I would have gone with airbags but I don't know, never had them personally but friends of mine have them and like them. But their trucks ride like a hay wagon. Could be because they're Rams. The Super Springs didn't hurt the ride on my F150 but it sits the rear up just a tad more than optimal. Maybe it's because I bought the super-duper heavy duty ones. Hey. if some is good, more is better -- Right? sure

I suspect the 10,000# GVWR has a lot to do with licensing, etc. Properly set-up, I think he could do a lot more than than the legal-eagles will want to talk about.

Which always kinda gets me just a little.

To me, there are two kinds of people -- People that obey rules because they make sense, ensure safety (public and private) and are good for the community; and people who obey rules just because they're there.

I'm not a 'Befehl ist Befehl' kind of guy

Use your own judgement, be safe and as always, YMMV
 
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Old 04-22-2017, 11:02 AM
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A higher payload truck is readily available: the F350.

Ford's 2017 RV & Trailer Towing Guide indicates the following load specs (both vehicles are 4x2 CCLB with 3.31 axles and, apparently, 17” wheels and tires), and prices are from Ford's website:
  • F250 w/ HDTP is rated at 25,700 lbs. GCWR and a maximum convention trailer weight of 18K lbs. XL trim MSRP is $47,550.
  • F350 SRW is rated at 28,400 lbs GCWR and a maximum conventional trailer weight of 18K lbs. XL trim MSRP is $47,595.
$45 extra for the F350 buys the same trailer load spec, but an additional 2,700 lbs. of “official” GCWR.

The difference in registration fees varies by state. Here in NC, the variable annual registration fee for a private truck rated at 10K lbs. is $134/yr. For a truck rated at 12K lbs., its $160/yr.

We can declare a weight (vehicle + people + cargo + trailer) lower that the actual GVWR or the GCWR, depending on use. However, exceeding the registered rating invites a fine. RV-type travel trailers are excluded from the weight calculation.

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ride comparision

Since most are calling this a almost f350 w high capacity upgrade, Will it drive (ride) like a f250 or more like a f350?
 
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Since most are calling this a almost f350 w high capacity upgrade, Will it drive (ride) like a f250 or more like a f350?
The F250 with the HC Tow Pkg is fitted with four-leaf rear spring packs. Their 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd stage spring rates are 325-, 700-, and 1251 lbs./inch.
Most F350 SRWs are fitted with five-leaf rear spring packs. Their 1st-, 2nd-, and 3rd stage spring rates are 350-, 700-, and 1400 lbs./inch.

I suspect that if you had an F250 HC and a similarly configured F350, with the same size tires and their inflation normalized (i.e., 65 psi rear for both instead of the F350's normal 80 psi), that you'd be hard pressed to tell the difference in ride until they were heavily loaded.

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inflation normalized (i.e., 65 psi rear for both instead of the F350's normal 80 psi)
F250 Heavy Tow rear tire pressure is listed as 75psi. I don't doubt it rides similar to a 350.
 
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F250 Heavy Tow rear tire pressure is listed as 75psi. I don't doubt it rides similar to a 350.
This may depend on tire size. Our F350's stock LT275/65R18E tires are spec'd at 80 psi for the rears.

I normally have our truck's tires set to 55F / 65R. I find the truck ride and handling to be too "jittery" when the tires are inflated to full-load spec but the truck is lightly loaded.

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It will actually DECREASE payload due to the extra weight being added.
 
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