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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 09:28 AM
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Pretty cool info provided by that link. Where is everyone expecting this new engine to be placed. Article says it will replace v10 but will it also replace the 6.2? Or will it be the base as the 6.2, the new 7.x in the middle, and then the 6.7 at the top? I can see where some people are coming from about their concerns with diesel but I'm thinking as the emission tech matures and hopefully with a little help from slowing down the ever increasing regulations, it will become more reliable.

One thing that im pretty sure about is that this new engine won't be $9k cheaper than the diesel, I think it will only be about $4k cheaper.
I expect the 7.xL to sit between the 6.2L and 6.7L diesel engines. I expect there to be a cost to move to the 7.x over the 6.2, but not the $5k you are suggesting. I would venture $1k or less.

The big story here is that this engine is going to replace the 6.8L V10, which means new engines in the C&C trucks, the medium duty (F6/750) trucks, and all motor home chassis. I honestly expect those to account for the vast majority of this new engine. A nice set of numbers would be about 450/500 out of this gasser, maybe just a tad more in the pickup trucks, or slightly less in C&C and MD trucks.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 10:24 AM
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The link is interesting, but the poor journalism makes me doubt all of it. They say the V10 is used in the F250, which we all know it isn't. It does make sense for Ford to be replacing the 6.8, but IDK if we'll see it in the pick up trucks, though it would be nice!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 10:37 AM
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That's the same thing I've seen. If they could get a 7.0 in the 400hp/500tq range and get 6.2 mpg numbers I think they would be the hot ticket. I'd be all over it.
Get Ford to buy Corvette Z06 engines, lets take a look see:

65/650

Over 400 lbs of torque just off idle

HP/Torq curve flatter than my first GF without her wonder bra

mid 20's mpg

and if you need to and got the right gears its about 0-60 in 3 sec and 200 mpg on the top end, maybe a bit slower if stuffed in an Alum SD...

And its PUSHRODS!
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 11:24 AM
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Get Ford to buy Corvette Z06 engines, lets take a look see:

65/650

Over 400 lbs of torque just off idle

HP/Torq curve flatter than my first GF without her wonder bra

mid 20's mpg

and if you need to and got the right gears its about 0-60 in 3 sec and 200 mpg on the top end, maybe a bit slower if stuffed in an Alum SD...

And its PUSHRODS!
And they wouldn't even come close to passing Ford's test standards for medium duty truck engines. Heck, they don't even pass GM's and GM doesn't put those engines in their 2500+ trucks, so....
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 11:41 AM
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This is great news, if true.
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by 17 Oaks
Get Ford to buy Corvette Z06 engines, lets take a look see:

65/650

Over 400 lbs of torque just off idle

HP/Torq curve flatter than my first GF without her wonder bra

mid 20's mpg

and if you need to and got the right gears its about 0-60 in 3 sec and 200 mpg on the top end, maybe a bit slower if stuffed in an Alum SD...

And its PUSHRODS!

Where do I sign?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 12:47 PM
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Slightly better article:

Ford to invest $1.2-billion in Canada, create Ottawa R&D centre - The Globe and Mail
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmantpw
And they wouldn't even come close to passing Ford's test standards for medium duty truck engines. Heck, they don't even pass GM's and GM doesn't put those engines in their 2500+ trucks, so....
I would buy one lol
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 09:29 PM
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5.4, 6.8 , 6.4 THEN 6.2, 7.3, 6.7 I see a trend in 2 gas 1 diesel options on the F250 and up Super Dudty's
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by fordmantpw
And they wouldn't even come close to passing Ford's test standards for medium duty truck engines. Heck, they don't even pass GM's and GM doesn't put those engines in their 2500+ trucks, so....
So, so what Standards?
 
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Old Mar 30, 2017 | 11:34 PM
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Well, I can tell you they are selling the hell out of the V10 F-450/550s up here. I have not even seen a 6.7 2017 450/550 yet. I'd be very curious to see what they come up with for a big gas engine, hopefully available in the F-250.
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 12:19 AM
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So, so what Standards?
What happens to the engine at WOT at 100% duty cycle under heavy load, does it melt down into a molten blob of aluminum or continue working? Kind of crazy that being that it's 2017 the old V10 is still the only gas Engine that really passes this test, figured somebody would have built a monster to replace it at this point but then again they do have EPA to deal with...
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 07:01 AM
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"t may take a few years, but Ford Super Duty (F-250 to F-550) and medium-duty (F-650 and F-750) pickup trucks look like they'll be getting a new torque-heavy 7.0-liter V-8 or V-10 gas engine. And all we can say is that it's about time.

With roots going all the way back to 1997, the 6.8-liter Triton V-10 has been the engine choice for several generations of Super Duty pickups, quite a few E-Series chassis cab and cutaway vans, and many motorhome chassis. It even played a role in the ill-fated Ford Excursion SUV. But now, according to Reuters, it looks like the Essex Engine Plant in Ontario, Canada, will get a $700 million investment to bring the workhorse V-10 engine into the modern age.

We have little information about the new gas engine or any possible upgraded transmission it's likely to be mated to, but we're guessing the motor will benefit from many of the same mpg-stretching fuel economy technologies we've seen in other Ford motors recently. So, we expect it to provide more horsepower and torque while achieving better empty and loaded fuel economy numbers over the engine it's replacing. More to come."

Report: Ford Super Duty to Get New Gas Engine - PickupTrucks.com News
 
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by MagicMtnDan
From PickupTrucks.com

"t may take a few years, but Ford Super Duty (F-250 to F-550) and medium-duty (F-650 and F-750) pickup trucks look like they'll be getting a new torque-heavy 7.0-liter V-8 or V-10 gas engine. And all we can say is that it's about time.

With roots going all the way back to 1997, the 6.8-liter Triton V-10 has been the engine choice for several generations of Super Duty pickups, quite a few E-Series chassis cab and cutaway vans, and many motorhome chassis. It even played a role in the ill-fated Ford Excursion SUV. But now, according to Reuters, it looks like the Essex Engine Plant in Ontario, Canada, will get a $700 million investment to bring the workhorse V-10 engine into the modern age.

We have little information about the new gas engine or any possible upgraded transmission it's likely to be mated to, but we're guessing the motor will benefit from many of the same mpg-stretching fuel economy technologies we've seen in other Ford motors recently. So, we expect it to provide more horsepower and torque while achieving better empty and loaded fuel economy numbers over the engine it's replacing. More to come."

Report: Ford Super Duty to Get New Gas Engine - PickupTrucks.com News
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Old Mar 31, 2017 | 10:49 AM
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Here is a in plant memo. No media required

 
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