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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 08:16 PM
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Coming from a crystal clear 2012 to this dark, grainy low def image that everyone else has. I don't think there's something wrong.
It sure would be nice to find out there was a bad batch. My CHMSL cam is the same.

Agreed. At night all the images are so grainy it is almost better to not have the camera. In the daylight it is better but the red and green lines are so dull/dim compared to my 2009 that it is even anemic in comparison. I have to say I am 100% disappointed in the camera Ford chose to use. Aftermarket, I hope you are working on something that is plug and play to help us.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 10:30 PM
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Did you watch the Weigh Safe video and compare the backup screen on my truck to yours? Is my screen better or the same as yours? This should allow you to see the camera in another truck and compare yours to it.
 
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 10:33 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
I'm pretty happy with the resolution on the cameras and can't help wonder if something is just wrong with your truck. I have a recording on the Weigh Safe hitch video where you can see the reverse camera in my truck. Have you looked at that for comparison?
I'm with Epic in this one. I have been very happy with mine. My rear camera is better than my 2013 rear camera at night for sure but that is primarily due to the extra LED lighting things up. My neighbor has a 2017 Dodge Ram Rebel and that is much lower resolution than I have seen in years.

Can you you post a picture of yours?
 
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Old Feb 25, 2017 | 11:18 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
Did you watch the Weigh Safe video and compare the backup screen on my truck to yours? Is my screen better or the same as yours? This should allow you to see the camera in another truck and compare yours to it.
My 2012 was way clearer then your video.
Mine now is very similar to what you show. Very dull. Closer to being black and white. Not bright and vibrant.
It like i had 1080p and now I have 480i
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 10:08 AM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
I'm pretty happy with the resolution on the cameras and can't help wonder if something is just wrong with your truck. I have a recording on the Weigh Safe hitch video where you can see the reverse camera in my truck. Have you looked at that for comparison?

Where can if find this video? tks
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Here is Epic's video. It starts about 2:40 in where you can see the backup camera

I think most of the issue is lack of low light ability. During the day the backup camera is tolerable (still worse than my old 2014 chevy 1500 and the wifes 2013 kia) but low light or night it is terrible. Maybe the LED backup lights help alleviate some of that and that is what the cameras were designed for. I plan on adding some LED backup lights on a relay that turns on with backup lights as well as can be turned on by a upfitter switch. Just trying to decide if I want to cut into my bumper or make them mount under the bumper but have a quick release to where I can grab them and move them higher, lower, or different angles if I need more light somewhere. Probably the movable option.

Maybe the camera is actually awesome but the software running it to control how it handles lighting wasn't set up for halogen lighting but instead they programmed only based on LED lighting. I don't know, I am just throwing things out there.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
I'm pretty happy with the resolution on the cameras and can't help wonder if something is just wrong with your truck. I have a recording on the Weigh Safe hitch video where you can see the reverse camera in my truck. Have you looked at that for comparison?
I agree, take the truck in for warranty repairs. If it's that bad just install last years camera and be done with it. I'm sure the diameter is the same.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 01:47 PM
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The image is low resolution, because Ford takes a 180 degree fisheye high resolution image. And cuts it down to the wanted veiw. This 'wanted' view is then software manipulated to remove the distortion of the fisheye lens. This cuts the resolution to of the view to 1/4 or less of the original resolution of the camera. Hence grainy.

It's like when you take a picture with your phone then blow up a small portion of the picture.... it becomes grainy.

Fisheye lenses is how they get that 360 degree view everyone likes...ok most people like.

John
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 04:09 PM
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Last night while backing up to the garage door I saw the tiny snow flakes falling in the camera so it can not be that bad. Maybe just a bad batch of cameras. I had a whole bad truck so no sympathies there.

I did note that the refresh rate is not likely that fast as the snow appeared to be jittery when falling. $85,000 truck and they can't put a 1080p 120 frame Super second camera. Bah hum bug!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 04:40 PM
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In low light my cameras are rubbish, in proper lighting they are just passable. In addition I would really like the option to choose my default views when engaging reverse or pressing camera button while in forward gear. Perhaps a future Forscan find can sort that out.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 05:11 PM
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I guess its a matter of perspective. Being that I have exactly ZERO cameras on my current truck, I'm pretty sure I'll be happy with the 6 (SIX) this truck will have. Plus my dashcam = 7. Wait, the 5ver has 3 more. That makes a total of 10. I think my camera fix is fulfilled!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by jdunk54nl
Here is Epic's video. It starts about 2:40 in where you can see the backup camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YC9r7hPd4I

I think most of the issue is lack of low light ability. During the day the backup camera is tolerable (still worse than my old 2014 chevy 1500 and the wifes 2013 kia) but low light or night it is terrible. Maybe the LED backup lights help alleviate some of that and that is what the cameras were designed for. I plan on adding some LED backup lights on a relay that turns on with backup lights as well as can be turned on by a upfitter switch. Just trying to decide if I want to cut into my bumper or make them mount under the bumper but have a quick release to where I can grab them and move them higher, lower, or different angles if I need more light somewhere. Probably the movable option.

Maybe the camera is actually awesome but the software running it to control how it handles lighting wasn't set up for halogen lighting but instead they programmed only based on LED lighting. I don't know, I am just throwing things out there.
you wont regret cutting into the bumper. I'll be doing the same ASAP because it works so well
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by livkot
In low light my cameras are rubbish, in proper lighting they are just passable. In addition I would really like the option to choose my default views when engaging reverse or pressing camera button while in forward gear. Perhaps a future Forscan find can sort that out.

Yes, this is another pet peeve of mine with the camera. When backing you get half the screen for backing and the other half for the full overhead view. I much prefer the full screen to back up and have to hit the right camera icon to do this. An annoyance for sure. Why did Ford not make the cameras programmable for user preference.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2017 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by jdunk54nl
Here is Epic's video. It starts about 2:40 in where you can see the backup camera
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_YC9r7hPd4I

I think most of the issue is lack of low light ability. During the day the backup camera is tolerable (still worse than my old 2014 chevy 1500 and the wifes 2013 kia) but low light or night it is terrible. Maybe the LED backup lights help alleviate some of that and that is what the cameras were designed for. I plan on adding some LED backup lights on a relay that turns on with backup lights as well as can be turned on by a upfitter switch. Just trying to decide if I want to cut into my bumper or make them mount under the bumper but have a quick release to where I can grab them and move them higher, lower, or different angles if I need more light somewhere. Probably the movable option.

Maybe the camera is actually awesome but the software running it to control how it handles lighting wasn't set up for halogen lighting but instead they programmed only based on LED lighting. I don't know, I am just throwing things out there.
Originally Posted by Chris Crews
you wont regret cutting into the bumper. I'll be doing the same ASAP because it works so well
I'm planning on this as well. A 4 or 6 emitter box on each side of the license plate. I want them to have a wide broadcast and not just shoot straight back. And I'm planning to use upfitter 6 only (not relayed to the backup lights) because they would be useful for so many things.

This will be a fun little project and I'm zero afraid of cutting the bumper. I saw a picture that someone posted of a similar solution on their truck. This looks to be a really high value mod for me.
 
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Old Feb 27, 2017 | 03:04 AM
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Originally Posted by EpicCowlick
I'm planning on this as well. A 4 or 6 emitter box on each side of the license plate. I want them to have a wide broadcast and not just shoot straight back. And I'm planning to use upfitter 6 only (not relayed to the backup lights) because they would be useful for so many things.

This will be a fun little project and I'm zero afraid of cutting the bumper. I saw a picture that someone posted of a similar solution on their truck. This looks to be a really high value mod for me.
Upfitter 5 and 6 are 40 amp circuits. The others are 25 amp. If you have items with a high amp draw you wish to install you might want to save 5 and 6 for that. Two 6 diode LED's would be well under 25 amps. On the other hand, 5 and 6 can be set to be always on and not affected by the key status.
 
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