My 450 stops as good as it goes

 

I only have 48 miles on mine and noticed the brakes are 'OKAY' but not anything as good as my past Denali. I def am applying more brake pressure to stop.

No beef from me really, but I did notice this difference.

 

The folks that are going to do the work on my suspension level once it arrives and gets 37" shoes mentioned the possibility of wanting a brake upgrade with those tires. (They don't do brake work, so I think its probably honest advice) This thread has me thinking a bit more about that. Anyone running 37's notice braking is tougher or is it not even an afterthought?

 

I don't think I'd worry about upgrading the brakes for 37s (or any other reasonable size actually). Just learn the new characteristics of the tires and how they affect the drive, then drive accordingly. I think the brakes are fine on these trucks and nothing to worry about.

 

For those of you with very low miles, it takes time for the brakes to fully bed in and work their best. Bigger tires definitely has a noticeable negative effect on braking. I've noticed more brake dust as well, but that typically means stronger and smoother brakes...despite increased pad wear.

 

Most Subaru drivers are idiots in my experience, lol

 

Great brakes as mentioned by many, the comment above "strong and smooth" is perfect. Seems a large improvement over my '15.

Also as mentioned by many, lots of dust...I use the adaptive cruise a lot, and this uses the brakes a fair amount...feels like even under engine power at times when finding a new speed to follow someone. I'll be interested to see if the pads wear exponentially faster.

 

Of course! You gotta admit that when someones first post offers no details and just complains about a product, that sure smells like a troll. I'm a former intel analyst so my worldview gets shaped by observable trends. Not 100% right, but often enough!

Brake feel would have to be tested against brake results. I'd be willing to bet todays truck with the same load as yesterdays truck, will stop better and quicker. Part of that better may be feel like it's fading, but that's just the computer controlled system taking over. We are past the HAL 9000 and now we are the machines begging to be heard that we can feel it!

 

If you watch some of the TFL videos the Ford has better brakes and stops quicker than the others. Especially with a load.

 

Agree 36. Just sold our 2011 F-350/6.7 and bought a new F-350/6.7. Love the truck but definitely noticed brakes are not as good as the 2011. We tow a 16k boat to Poker Runs all over the country. Brakes are everything with this load.


Hoping this is simply a break-in thing.

 

Exactly! My experience as well. I haven't hooked up to the boat yet and won't until these get fixed. Congrats to you guys without issues believe ours might have a bad set. Truck was built in September of 2016.


Again, I think this truck represents Detroit at it's finest but they're not perfect.


Only second post but not trolling

 

Might be a good option Frantz. After 2000 posts a change might be good for you.

Some of us are just looking for genuine help and advise. Maybe you could make a comeback with this in mind.

 

Might want to rethink that comment.


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Frantz is one of the good guys.

 

It's all good. I was being a jerk, based on my own, possibly misguided, trend analysis. I did add a more "useful" post a few up there too!

 

Frantz, the brakes are still a direct, mechanical connection. Push brake pedal, hydraulic fluid is forced to push out pistons with brake pads against steel rotors. Yes, there are electronic aspects...such as ABS and proportioning valves, but the basic function is mechanical. "Fade" comes when the pads overheat and glaze during a lot of braking. Brakes that fade typically are not large enough pads and rotors for the weight or speed capability of the vehicle, or are poorly cooled.

These brakes are the same as the 2015 brakes...same size rotor, same caliper design. It appears brake pads are different (hence the dust) but all in all, I feel these brakes are quite good.

I also second Senix that Frantz is one of the good guys. Many great contributions, thanks.