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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 11:25 AM
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GCWR and limits.

Okay, I've been researching this for months and still am getting mixed replies, so I'll try this site. I have a 2014 F-250 with the 6.7 diesel, and the 3:55 rear end gears. I am towing a 41 ft. Cedar Creek that weighs 13,225 dry. They (whoever they are) say you typically add about 800 pounds of stuff, so that would bring it up to just over 14,000 pounds. The 2014 Trailer Life Guide to Towing says this truck is good for 15,900, and the truck plate says a GCWR of 23,500. This truck tows the camper effortlessly down the interstate and gets 11 mpg at 65 mph. We tested it up the Saluda Pass (7 miles climb up the mountains from SC to NC) and it kept at 62 mph until the very top where it dropped to 55 for a couple of seconds. It did not seem to be working hard during that climb. With all of this said, am I towing too much with this truck or am I okay (wife wants to head west to Montana, Arizona, Texas, etc.) If this is too much, can the rear end gears be changed to the 4:10s in order to handle the weight of the camper? Thanks for reviewing this, and for any advice coming my way.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 03:33 PM
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Instead of guessing or listening to "they" why not just weigh your truck loaded like you'll be traveling then weigh the truck and rv next trip out. Cat scale can be found at almost any truck stop and cost $10 +/-. This way you'll know the real weights.
Climbing any hill if long enough and steep enough you will lose speed it's just the nature of gravity even for our 6.7s. Don't forget it's not how fast you make it up but how safe you do it.
 
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 04:07 PM
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Every year Ford publishes a Towing Guide listing all the weight ratings for each truck, model, and drive train. Here is the link to the one for your 2014 https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...nd-limits.html

It has a lot of good information.

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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:16 PM
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Go here for a pdf of towing guides.

RV & Trailer Towing Guides | fleet.ford.com
 
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Old Feb 19, 2017 | 09:34 PM
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Thanks, I don't know how I copied in what I did! My post didn't make much sense. I found the same page you linked in, but screwed up after that.

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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 04:36 AM
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It's not how fast you can tow going up the hill, but can you control your speed going down? Does the truck and trailer have enough brakes that you could stop it halfway down the hill?

Remember, gravity is the law.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 08:04 AM
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You will be fine. When I had my 2008 6.4 I towed cross country several times. My current trailer is just shy of 16K and I towed first with my 6.4 and now my current 6.7.


Always go by the wet weight. As things go you will eventually be there.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 08:12 AM
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You will be fine. When I had my 2008 6.4 I towed cross country several times. My current trailer is just shy of 16K and I towed first with my 6.4 and now my current 6.7.


Always go by the wet weight. As things go you will eventually be there.
Yep. We get a lot of full timers around here this time of year. Swap meets are hell on the GVW of a trailer.
 
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Firecop01
Okay, I've been researching this for months and still am getting mixed replies, so I'll try this site. I have a 2014 F-250 with the 6.7 diesel, and the 3:55 rear end gears. I am towing a 41 ft. Cedar Creek that weighs 13,225 dry. They (whoever they are) say you typically add about 800 pounds of stuff, so that would bring it up to just over 14,000 pounds. The 2014 Trailer Life Guide to Towing says this truck is good for 15,900, and the truck plate says a GCWR of 23,500. This truck tows the camper effortlessly down the interstate and gets 11 mpg at 65 mph. We tested it up the Saluda Pass (7 miles climb up the mountains from SC to NC) and it kept at 62 mph until the very top where it dropped to 55 for a couple of seconds. It did not seem to be working hard during that climb. With all of this said, am I towing too much with this truck or am I okay (wife wants to head west to Montana, Arizona, Texas, etc.) If this is too much, can the rear end gears be changed to the 4:10s in order to handle the weight of the camper? Thanks for reviewing this, and for any advice coming my way.

I think the one thing that you will be over on for sure with that big of a Cedar Creek is the GVWR and the Rear axle rating they are very heavy trailers. Like others have said you should weight the truck and trailer so you will know
 
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 09:51 AM
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Agree, questions about weight are best resolved by knowing how much weight one actually has on board and then reviewing the specs in the Ford Towing Guides online for the year and model truck under consideration.

Steve
 
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Old Feb 20, 2017 | 01:30 PM
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I have zero problems towing the rig in my signature. I just completed a 500 mile trip.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 10:41 AM
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Originally Posted by msgtord
Go here for a pdf of towing guides.

RV & Trailer Towing Guides | fleet.ford.com
I have similar concerns as the OP, trying to figure out how big of a fifth wheel I can tow. The PDF from your link for my model year says one thing (12800), while the VIN decoder says something else (14,000).

VIN decoder: VIN Decoder - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

Obviously, I prefer the 14,000 lb number, LOL!

My truck is a 2002 F350 7.3 CC LB SRW.

Sure would like to know what I can safely tow. I'm looking at a 2017 Keystone Carbon 337 toy hauler that's supposed to be around 12,800.
 
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12,500 off the receiver and 12,800 5th wheel/gooseneck, page 19.


that 14K number might be the GVW of the truck.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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Originally Posted by senix
12,500 off the receiver and 12,800 5th wheel/gooseneck, page 19.


that 14K number might be the GVW of the truck.
no, it's definitely the fifth wheel trailer weight max according to that page; here's a screenshot of the site with my VIN input:

VIN decoder: VIN Decoder - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums

 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 11:40 AM
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what do you get here:


https://www.etis.ford.com/vehicleReg...D041F.fcvas505
 
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