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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by hoosier53
If you think pulling the heads off was difficult, wait till you try to carefully set them back on. An engine hoist or someone with large biceps will be helpful.
Here's how we put the right head on. Dave crawled into the engine bay (he is short) and I handed it to him. Now the left side of the block is missing one alignment dowel, so that one could be more of a challenge until we get some bolts in.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by raytasch
I've seen and heard of these push rods come disengaged several times over the years. My theory is, it happens when a valve sticks open because of rust or valve stem deposits. Again, my thoughts only but when these old engines are awakened from storage, a valve sticks open and there is the disconnect. Lubrication to the rockers on these old engines is poor at best. IMO, we do not do these old engines any favors by starting and not warming them up fully during periods of storage. All this procedure does is promote moisture inside the engine and resultant rust. Frequent oil changes with good detergent oil and frequent use is, IMO, the answer to maintaining a healthy engine.
I would think an engine that had the valves so loose they would disconnect is highly unlikely. It would make as much noise as a compound threshing machine. Surely anyone would investigate.
As usual, Ray, your thoughts make a lot of sense! Thanks.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 09:38 PM
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Make yourself a couple of pilot studs for the side that is missing a dowel. Just long enough to be able to grab the head to remove it after you get more of the bolts in. Slot it to be able to use a screwdriver.

 
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Old Feb 17, 2017 | 10:00 PM
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Originally Posted by ALBUQ F-1
Make yourself a couple of pilot studs for the side that is missing a dowel. Just long enough to be able to grab the head to remove it after you get more of the bolts in. Slot it to be able to use a screwdriver.

Good idea.. I think I'll work on that this week as I wait for my BIL to come again.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2017 | 05:40 AM
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Glad you figured something out setting them back on. I got lucky setting the first one right on. But the second one, I think it was the passenger side, I almost messed up the head gasket trying to lean out over the fender and line it up while setting it down.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2017 | 06:35 AM
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I can't find my welded one to take a picture. This one is a metric bolt about the size of a 1/4" nipple. I cut the head of the bolt off and threaded the end for 1/4" iron pipe size. I first tried welding a 1/4" nipple to threaded rod, but the nipple colappsed. I used a 1" x 1/2" iron pipe reducing coupling (the one in the picture is 1 1/2" x 1") some washers and tighten down on the nuts. I used 2 nuts for more thread engagement. The 56 and up heads had a 1/4" sender and the 54&55 heads had a 3/8" sender. (iron pipe size) The one in the picture can be used for the larger sender with the addition of a 3/8"X1/4" bushing at the bottom. My other one , which I can't find at the moment is a 3/8" nipple welded to some 1/2" threaded rod. Dennis
 
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Old Feb 18, 2017 | 08:23 AM
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Thanks, Dennis. My BIL, Dave Bollinger (a Lancaster County transplant) will be able to rig something up. You might know him. He used to work for C. G. Sweigart Oil Co in Denver. He worked on a lot of Glenn's stuff.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2017 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by hoosier53
Glad you figured something out setting them back on. I got lucky setting the first one right on. But the second one, I think it was the passenger side, I almost messed up the head gasket trying to lean out over the fender and line it up while setting it down.
It is probably a 2 man job. The fender alignment rod makes it difficult too. My BIL commented how low the engine sits and I said or is it the big fenders? It must have been especially hard with your F500.
 
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Old Feb 18, 2017 | 01:22 PM
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Here is what I got done yesterday. Hopefully, Dave will be back in the next week or two with the plug out of the old head so we can finish the job.




 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 05:08 PM
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Do not install anything that has a missing dowel, they are imperative for alignment! The bolts only apply torque, not position. Hate to see you have to it twice. Even if you get it installed in the correct position as it heats and cools it's going to stretch and shift and the dowels keep it in place. Not staying in place means it's constantly moving and will eventually cause gasket failure and sometimes, depending on the gasket technology, erosion/brinelling at sealing surfaces that can require machining to correct.
 

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Too much to risk for such a cheap part. Many vendors have them but I'd bet NAPA or other parts houses could get them. Maybe NumberDummy will chime in with a part number. Wouldn't surprise me if a small block Ford's dowel would be the same.
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 05:23 PM
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There is no such thing s a cheap part in Detroit. A 3 cent part on a half million cars equals an executive being able to eat lobster instead of chicken in the executive dining room. Or Charmin vs. single-ply in the washroom. :-)
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 05:31 PM
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I hear ya Here's some that shipping will cost more than the dowels. Dowel pins head to block 4 pc kit #dp-1
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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When you get the cam out check the Lobe at that pushrod. I had that happen on a 292 years ago. The Lobe went round and the pushrod fell
 
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Old Feb 21, 2017 | 06:45 PM
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Thanks, Beav and BJ and Ernie! I will stop at NAPA tomorrow and see if they have them. A simple cheap part that could save big money down the road.

Thanks for all your help.
 
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