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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:11 PM
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Bad EGR?

2004 completely stock 6.0, 276000 miles, head gasket done at 170000. EGR replaced at time of head gaskets.

About once a week if I get stopped at a red light or stop sign and I get the green to go, I get a slight hesitation then the truck gets up and goes. Sometimes I get a slight puff of white smoke. Today I had to stop on a decent incline and wait for traffic before I could enter the roadway. I had just enough power to get on the road and I was billowing white smoke like crazy. I went like that for about 100' then the turbo spooled and off I went like nothing happened. Last I checked my coolant is good and no puking degas.
I'm guessing it's a sticky EGR?

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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:25 PM
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Check the MAP sensor hose and nipple, be sure it's clean.
EBP sensor might be suspect, be sure the tube is clean.
Any codes? How are you reading live data?

EGR is easy enough to pull and check for soot build up that might prevent proper oepration
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:32 PM
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And check under the EGR for moisture.
Any codes?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 04:43 PM
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I will need to check those things! Thanks

I do have a scan gauge hooked up. No codes or check engine light. Be honest I've never seen the check engine light ever. I've had the truck since new and own all the miles.

Is there something in particular I should look for on the scan gauge?
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:06 PM
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Was the turbo cleaned during the previous maintenance?

Is your 04 an early or late 04 (where is the ICP sensor)?

If you can get a smell when it is smoking bad, see if you can detect raw fuel.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 05:37 PM
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Yes turbo was cleaned when the head gaskets were repaired.

I will do the sniff test next time.

It acted just like this just before the head gaskets went last time. The dealer initially thought it was the egr until they could diagnose the head gasket.
 
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Old Feb 14, 2017 | 06:03 PM
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Program the DTC count into the Scan Gauge and see how many codes are stored. It doesn't do well with reading the codes but does good counting them. Then use something like Torque Pro or ForScan to read them
 
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The EGR was really dirty. So I cleaned it and out it back. It still functioned properly. When I push the plunger out it always sprung back.
It was slightly moist under the EGR. More like a soot paste laying down in the bottom. Is this normal?
I checked the MAP sensor and it and the tube looked in good shape.
I didn't check the EBP yet. Looks like that will require a little more time.
It is a late build '04.

I hope it's just a dirty EGR! I would like to turn 300000 before I sell it.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 05:56 PM
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Unfortunately, moisture shows a ruptured cooler. What are your oil and coolant temperature at once fully warmed up?

Clean the MAP nipple on the intake where the hose plugs in.
 
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Oil can mix w/ the exhaust and form a sticky (moist looking) paste in the intake (so can unburned fuel if you have a functional EGR system). Don't confuse this with water/coolant.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 06:34 PM
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My temps run high 170's to high 180's. Average delta of about 10*.
When you say cooler do you mean EGR cooler?
 
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Yes.
As Mark said, could be oil or fuel.
170-180 is kind of low, should be above 185 for sure or its pouring the fuel to it to get above 185. Might consider a thermostat change.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 07:06 PM
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I'll take a closer watch at the temps tomorrow. I usually just glance and check the deltas once in a while.
So if the EGR cooler is shot, is it cheaper to just do the delete?

I did try to sniff down into the EGR pocket when I had it out and there was a faint coolant odor.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 07:13 PM
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Better to try the tailpipe sniff.... loosing any coolant?
Depends, state inspections? After you drive it, park nose down, any coolant may puddle in the front, under the EGR valve.

Normally, EBP sensor control how fast a peddle response is, MAP sensor responds with how much boost. Clean both and the tubes that feed them. Use string trimmer line. Check the MAP hose, make sure you clean the nipple as well.
 
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Old Feb 15, 2017 | 07:27 PM
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Is your 04 an early model or late model?

nm - I saw in an earlier post (late model)

They had the weak EGR cooler.
 
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