2003 Excursion swapping to 2000 Power
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2003 Excursion swapping to 2000 Power
I have a 2003 Excursion with 7.3 and have found a motor from a 2000 E-bus with 50,000 miles.. What kind of swapping complications can be found from these 2 years ?
I am thinking about upgrading injectors along with other goodies and would do this work at the same time.
Kyle
I am thinking about upgrading injectors along with other goodies and would do this work at the same time.
Kyle
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I have a 2003 Excursion with 7.3 and have found a motor from a 2000 E-bus with 50,000 miles.. What kind of swapping complications can be found from these 2 years ?
I am thinking about upgrading injectors along with other goodies and would do this work at the same time.
Kyle
I am thinking about upgrading injectors along with other goodies and would do this work at the same time.
Kyle
Should be a direct swap and inheritance of forged rods, you will have to swap your accesories over including turbo, swap injectors and it should be a bolt in swap.
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I'm thinking turbo, spider, E model probably has a glow plug control module (GPCM), which you may or may not be able to use. If not then you'll need to swap your engine harness and GPR. I don't know if it's important but I have heard that the oil cooler is smaller on a van. I wonder about the oil dipstick. On second thought, engine harness probably as the van turbo has no wastegate.
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I'm thinking turbo, spider, E model probably has a glow plug control module (GPCM), which you may or may not be able to use. If not then you'll need to swap your engine harness and GPR. I don't know if it's important but I have heard that the oil cooler is smaller on a van. I wonder about the oil dipstick. On second thought, engine harness probably as the van turbo has no wastegate.
Not a van..
E-bus..
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To keep it short and simple, swap the long block, everything off your motor will bolt right up. In essence, when I say accesories, this includes braketry, alternator, pump, AC compressor, turbo, IC piping, Spider, hoses, dip stick tube, etc. Not needed to do all but at least you know what history is on your components, shelve the spares for later. Your bolt on components will swap directly over to the other motor in a matter of an hour or so. It would be worth your while to replace orings, gaskets, etc on your bolt on components with each motor next oto the other. Retain your harness in the truck, as well as the ac compressor a lines.
The long block will be the same...
The long block will be the same...
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My understanding is that an E-Bus is a van front end with a bus cab/passenger area on it. So, I am interested to see if the engine has the van set up or the truck setup.
I have been wrong though, hell I was wrong twice today already...
I have been wrong though, hell I was wrong twice today already...
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E Series Cutaways (the van front cab chassis foundation for E busses and Class C motorhomes) will have the same motor hardware configuration as the E series vans with the same engine. The gear ratio, fuel tanks, parking brake, wheel adapters, springs, shock valving, and other chassis components will differ, but the motors will be the same, save for the engine PCM calibration, which will differ.
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And nossliw is right about the other stuff. The E series have the alternator and A/C compressor switching seats so their brackets need to be swapped. Additionally, the van has a mechanical vacuum pump attached to the A/C compressor bracket. Both the van and the Excursion have GPCM but the van is missing the wastegate. So if the wastegate is kept the engine harness needs to be swapped.
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The ebus motor should be identical to a van motor, I have a van motor out in the shop and one luckily that also came out of an "ebus", or a yellow short bus that threw a rod. Took a look last night and they are the same, neither actually had a gpcm which i also assumed they all did for some reason.
Best of luck on the swap, you will find its very easy and once they are sitting next to each other you zip one part off and swap the next right over. Goes pretty quick! Once again I will highly suggest replacing your rail plug orings, pedestal rings, oil cooler o-rings and filter adapter gaskets, plenum sealant etc, while you have them out...it takes a fraction of the time and even with a 50k mile motor, its still has gaskets and rubber that are around 15 years old...
Likely unneeded but now is a great time to rebuild or delete components on the turbo as well, its worth the 100$....
Best of luck on the swap, you will find its very easy and once they are sitting next to each other you zip one part off and swap the next right over. Goes pretty quick! Once again I will highly suggest replacing your rail plug orings, pedestal rings, oil cooler o-rings and filter adapter gaskets, plenum sealant etc, while you have them out...it takes a fraction of the time and even with a 50k mile motor, its still has gaskets and rubber that are around 15 years old...
Likely unneeded but now is a great time to rebuild or delete components on the turbo as well, its worth the 100$....
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The ebus motor should be identical to a van motor, I have a van motor out in the shop and one luckily that also came out of an "ebus", or a yellow short bus that threw a rod. Took a look last night and they are the same, neither actually had a gpcm which i also assumed they all did for some reason.
Best of luck on the swap, you will find its very easy and once they are sitting next to each other you zip one part off and swap the next right over. Goes pretty quick! Once again I will highly suggest replacing your rail plug orings, pedestal rings, oil cooler o-rings and filter adapter gaskets, plenum sealant etc, while you have them out...it takes a fraction of the time and even with a 50k mile motor, its still has gaskets and rubber that are around 15 years old...
Likely unneeded but now is a great time to rebuild or delete components on the turbo as well, its worth the 100$....
Best of luck on the swap, you will find its very easy and once they are sitting next to each other you zip one part off and swap the next right over. Goes pretty quick! Once again I will highly suggest replacing your rail plug orings, pedestal rings, oil cooler o-rings and filter adapter gaskets, plenum sealant etc, while you have them out...it takes a fraction of the time and even with a 50k mile motor, its still has gaskets and rubber that are around 15 years old...
Likely unneeded but now is a great time to rebuild or delete components on the turbo as well, its worth the 100$....
Thanks for the tips.
I was planning on adding 160/80 injectors
and a 38R in that department.
Also stuff like billet plenums , new uppipes.
Kyle