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Old Feb 6, 2017 | 09:50 PM
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Not ready to jump in the delete club, but would like to get a programmer to fix tire size/speedo issues. Shift point are off and it's driving me nuts on the back roads. If I pick up some small HP/torque/economy great, don't need it though in this truck. What are my options?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:49 AM
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I am not a fan of the delete club myself. To each his own though. Get in touch with Mike at 5 Star Tuning. You can get just a transmission tune, or for the same price get a daily tow tune. You will not be disappointed. Just did it with mine and it was worth it for the transmission performance alone. The fact that I picked up 40 HP and 80 ft. lbs. at the rear wheels was just an added bonus for me. Have you tried daily driving in the tow / haul mode?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 10:22 AM
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I have checked with many tuner people. No one that I have come across can program for tires larger than what come stock with the 20" wheel option, 34.4" or close. I have 37's and it makes my shift points off too. I hope someone knows something I don't.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 10:28 AM
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With my tuner, I just changed the rear gear ratio in the system from 3.55 to 3.31 to get me close. The tallest tire option I could select was 34" on my tuner, which was what was already there.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 11:55 AM
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Check post #66 and the link to the tire size calculator. If you have access and ability to use FORScan, you might can get a more accurate speedo.

https://www.ford-trucks.com/forums/1...l#post16787790
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 05:43 PM
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gotpit, what size tires are you running?
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 06:58 PM
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I am 99% sure that SCT Livewire will calibrate 37's. I think I remember seeing that as an option when I was tuning mine.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 09:36 PM
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Originally Posted by EO2SeaBee
With my tuner, I just changed the rear gear ratio in the system from 3.55 to 3.31 to get me close. The tallest tire option I could select was 34" on my tuner, which was what was already there.
Did this affect any of the abs/stability/traction control systems?

Going with 3.31 and a tire size of 32.2 should net/mimic a 34.5 with 3.55 similar 33.9 w/3.31 is close to 37 with 3.55

So I am curious if this logic will create problems with individual wheel speed sensors as they are tone ring type I believe.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 10:37 PM
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gotpit, what size tires are you running?
35x12.5 on 20s.

I tried the tow haul mode on the way home tonight, felt alot more like I thought it should, engine brake surprised me a couple times on the sharper turns and stops.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 10:47 PM
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Been looking online and all these programmers claim to be able to change tire size. I had the SCT for my old 6.0, so was looking at them a little harder and am leaning towards the SCT X4. Less than $400 on a couple sites. Anyone familiar with it on the 6.7s? I guess an email to them or one of the vendors might shine some light if it'll do 35s.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 11:30 PM
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The SCT X4 tire size limit is 34" (as I assume all of the tuners are limited to for the 6.7s). I sent them an email a while back asking if they would ever be able to update this and allow larger sizes. Their reply was they could not, due to a size limitation being built into the Ford software (or something to that effect).
 
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 07:41 AM
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Originally Posted by bleppek
The SCT X4 tire size limit is 34" (as I assume all of the tuners are limited to for the 6.7s). I sent them an email a while back asking if they would ever be able to update this and allow larger sizes. Their reply was they could not, due to a size limitation being built into the Ford software (or something to that effect).
this is what I was told by SCT as well, limitation on ford's side
 
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 05:38 PM
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"Josh @ 5 Star <josh@5startuning.com>
The shifting is set up for 35's but you have to set your tire size with the tuner. Thanks!"

Hope this helps. I sent them an email last night. My 35's on my factory 20's actually measure 34.5".
 
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Old Feb 8, 2017 | 09:37 PM
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Well. We will see if I have a normal drive tomorrow or make a system mad



I am expecting it to get mad and have to reprogram back to 34 and 3.55, unless each wheel speed sensor is relative one another and doesn't look at vss on diff
 

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Old Feb 9, 2017 | 04:15 AM
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My new tires are 295/65/20's. My factory tires were the 34.5" as you had. Since my tuner would allow reprogramming for factory available sizes only, I couldn't get it any larger than it already was. I lied to my computer and told it I had changed the rear diff to 3.31. I have had no issues with this new configuration, and the speedo appears to be more accurate.
 
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