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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 06:26 PM
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Broke off plug need help


Ok I have an 05 super duty with a 5.4 . When I bought the truck it was running ruff the guy said it just needed a coil pack. So i got all new plugd and coil packs changed them all on the drivers side with out an issue started ob the passenger dide gkt to cylinder 3 and found it has been broken off. Idk if thats part of the plug or a broken off easy out idk what to with it
 
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:32 PM
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Hopefully someone else has a better idea, but I'd try to drill it out then use an extractor.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:37 PM
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The pic does not make it easy to ID what one is seeing. If it is a broken plug, from the looks of where it broke one should still be able to get a spark plug socket on it. Have you tried to determine if a plug socket goes on the remnant?
 
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:50 PM
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There nothing there but a round nub sticking up
 
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 08:55 PM
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 10:44 PM
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There is an extraction tool for this. Most Ford dealers have delt with it and many have gotten good at getting them out. Ford has gotten much better at helping on this as they are paying millions in a class action lawsuit for this issue. I had a 2004 that the dealer broke them off and it was a $2,800 repair bill as they had to pull the heads and it was a cab off repair. That was early on and as I said they have gotten much better at getting them out. Call a dealer before making if worse. They can likely help.
 
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Old Feb 4, 2017 | 11:51 PM
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Do you have the part that came out? A pic of that will be more useful to determine how much is still left behind. It is pretty common for the extended portion of the plug to break off and remain stuck in the head on the early 3 valve engines. In that case as long as the plugs are Motorcraft the extractor tool will usually work pretty well to remove it. Hard to tell from your pics looking into the hole what exactly you have to deal with. If any of the threaded part of the plug is left behind then the extractor tool is not going to help.

These engines have very specific procedures for successful plug changes. Plug problems with these are very common and widely know about by this time. There are a few things that can be done in advance and during the process to help prevent breaking them, but it can still happen.

If you did not install Motorcraft plugs, pull them back out and replace them. Motorcraft plugs are designed for this engine and often the other brands misfire or fail early. The extractor tool is only designed to work on OEM plugs and when other brands break off there is no guarantee the tool will work with them. Motorcraft coils are the only way to go, everything else is a waste of money, they just don't last. The modular engines are very particular. Proper plug torque is also critical on most of these engines.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 07:22 AM
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I'm saying I did not break it off .I took the coil pack out and that's what was there . There were no other pieces . They were motorcraft plugs. That's what I'm puting back in it
 
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 09:05 AM
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I would contact the seller asap as he knew what the problem was and lied about it and passed it on to you. Then I'd contact my lawyer then a Ford dealer to see what it's going to take to fix it. Sorry to say but you got scammed. I was in a similar situation with a truck I bought off ebay from a reputable dealer halfway across the country. All said and done I had to pull the cab off of my new-to-me truck and have the heads done but I did get the dealer to cover half the labor and parts.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 10:39 AM
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I would contact the seller asap as he knew what the problem was and lied about it and passed it on to you. Then I'd contact my lawyer then a Ford dealer to see what it's going to take to fix it. Sorry to say but you got scammed. I was in a similar situation with a truck I bought off ebay from a reputable dealer halfway across the country. All said and done I had to pull the cab off of my new-to-me truck and have the heads done but I did get the dealer to cover half the labor and parts.
In most private party situations all transactions per state laws are "as is unless agreed upon in writing"

Now, you need this

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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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Lisle part number 65600.
Here's the bottom line, you got what you got...get the kit and remove the broken plug. (Watch some YouTube videos for helpful info). The PO isn't going to be any help....The fact that the other half of the plug is missing is evidence that he said "Oh Sh.." after he broke it and buttoned it back up to unload it. Anyone with just a little Ford 3v knowledge knows it's a pain but not the end of the world. Extract it yourself and make sure the replacements are the newer 1 piece plugs.
Yes, you can spend more money and sanity and time, trying to pursue legal action as some recommend........and end up with the same end results.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 11:36 AM
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I would get the spark plug remover and give that a shot. Soak it good with penetrating oil. If you can't get it then take it to the dealer. Good luck!
 
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Yes, most situations are "as is" but I most definitely would not tuck my tail between my legs and say 'Aw shucks". Will he get anything from the po? More than likely not. But I damned sure would let him know how much of a lying pos crook he is. Guess I should've bit my tounge in my situation and blamed myself and not the seller who knew my truck was broken.
 
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Old Feb 5, 2017 | 03:19 PM
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Yes, most situations are "as is" but I most definitely would not tuck my tail between my legs and say 'Aw shucks". Will he get anything from the po? More than likely not. But I damned sure would let him know how much of a lying pos crook he is. Guess I should've bit my tounge in my situation and blamed myself and not the seller who knew my truck was broken.
Snakes are everywhere, if there was any doubt the buyer should have taken the truck to a trusted mechanic.
 
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Old Feb 7, 2017 | 02:32 PM
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Curious?

Why do all the listings for the broken plug remover specify they are for the 3V engine? Is this not also a problem on the 6.8L 2V engine? Does this tool also work on the 2V engine?
 
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