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Jan 31, 2017 | 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fordmantpw

But that's not Ford's problem. And I would wager that most Mustangs are stock (engine-wise). Just like most Super Duty trucks are kept stock. What you see on fan forums is not the norm.

True, but the 6.7 makes a lot more tq then the 5.0 and if they get the pump and gears from the same company (which I assume they do cause I don't believe it's a in house built part) then I'm sure it would be the weak point of the engine as well and will have problems. Hopefully that's not the case since I will be owning one very soon.

Jan 31, 2017 | 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by 17450KR

In only thirteen posts we go from a SD 6.7L Diesel Oil issue to a modified Mustang with upgraded billet oil pump gears...that has to be a record!!

Back on topic: Grab your umbrellas...the sky is falling again.

I was pointing out that ford uses cheap gears and pumps on their engines so I was using them as examples. Go drink some coffee

Jan 31, 2017 | 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Strokin-A-2010

Go drink some coffee

Having my first cup of the day now...thanks for thinking about me! BTW, I was just having fun hoping to bring a little chuckle and smile, no pokes at anybody in particular. Have a blessed day.

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Jan 31, 2017 | 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by 17450KR

In only thirteen posts we go from a SD 6.7L Diesel Oil issue to a modified Mustang with upgraded billet oil pump gears...that has to be a record!!

Back on topic: Grab your umbrellas...the sky is falling again.

I'll admit I took the bait on the Coyote and Voodoo engines...but I tried to temper it with a report on my 2017 having 5k miles on it with zero issues.

Jan 31, 2017 | 07:36 AM

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I'll admit I took the bait on the Coyote and Voodoo engines...but I tried to temper it with a report on my 2017 having 5k miles on it with zero issues.

Ok I have to ask. Why do people post "well my truck/car has such and such miles and never had a problem"? I mean just because you have certain miles on a vehicle without a problem doesn't mean ALL vehicles won't have whatever problem is posted.

Jan 31, 2017 | 08:13 AM

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I dunno. Check the title of THIS thread "another one down at 218 miles."

To me, that connotes these trucks are dropping like flies. So I mentioned I have one that has been solid. Of course I realize with tens of thousands of these things being built, individual results may vary. But the point was that the bulk of these are doing just fine.

Jan 31, 2017 | 08:16 AM

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People shouldn't base a model or engine off of forums and Facebook groups anyways. Most people come to forums to post about problems they have anyways.

Jan 31, 2017 | 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Strokin-A-2010

People shouldn't base a model or engine off of forums and Facebook groups anyways. Most people come to forums to post about problems they have anyways.

Ha ha!! Says the one who's posting about problems seen on forums and FB.

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Originally Posted by Strokin-A-2010

And yes I'm a member on a few GT350 forums and facebook group and it is a known problem.

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Jan 31, 2017 | 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Strokin-A-2010

People shouldn't base a model or engine off of forums and Facebook groups anyways. Most people come to forums to post about problems they have anyways.

Sometimes true....but that's not the norm any longer. People are on these forums because they have the product that the forum is for. Trucks, boats, gun, puppies, etc. Particularly THIS forum....2017 Super Duty. I'd bet 99% are on here because they have a brand new truck or one on order.....not because they have an issue.

Jan 31, 2017 | 10:04 AM

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I think you are correct, but in fairness several people who have bought 2017's and then had an issue have reported it here. That can be helpful to others who have the problem so they know they aren't the only one. Its also a place for people who spent big bucks to vent about problems they aren't happy are happening, and to report how the dealer / Ford took care of them. I'm OK with that, so long as it doesn't get out of hand.

So far, we've seen people with transmission cooler line leaks, power steering leaks, media bin doors not working, couple of sunroof leaks, faulty oil pumps, and a couple of other issues.

Jan 31, 2017 | 10:26 AM

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The OP hasn't provided any proof of a failed engine, just something he heard that his kid saw on facebook...

Jan 31, 2017 | 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Strokin-A-2010

I guess I wasn't clear with my post, sorry. On the coyote engine the oil pump gear is the weakest link when modding especially when you add boost that's why people switch to a billet oil pump gear. But there are severely GT350 owners that are bone stock that the oil pump gears went out on them. Ford knows its a problem but doesn't fix it and continue to use the cheap oil pump gears.

I don't think ford knows or agrees they have weak oil pumps. I think that they would spend a few more dollars on oil pump gears rather than replace a engine that cost several thousand dollars. I know that a few years ago when I was racing a ford engine that was supplied by my local ford dealer that produced a little over a thousand hp we ran a stock ford oil pump in a 385 series engine and never had any pump problems. We did have to make changes to the oil system to restrict oil flow to keep the pump from pumping the pan dry. Ford is betting a lot on their 6.7 powerstroke it is a big moneymaker for them and being the oil pump is the number one part that needs to work I think they feel it is up to the task. So far ford has produced 70,000 2017 super duty's. A failure rate of 1% would be 700 trucks I haven't seen or heard of 7 as of yet. I just think problems with vehicles on forums seem to make it look a lot worse than it really is. Now enough of that let's get back to talking about how great ford super duty's are

Jan 31, 2017 | 11:57 AM

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Ha ha!! Says the one who's posting about problems seen on forums and FB.

Im talking about seeing one problem here and there you shouldn't judge a vehicle, but when it's a problem you see posting over and over and over again that's another story.

Jan 31, 2017 | 12:37 PM

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Sorry to hear that! Luckily I found the FSA prior to delivery and ensured that the test was satisfactory prior to closing the deal. The oil pump developed adequate pressure to clear the low pressure alarm within 1 second after the 8 hour soak period. If that did not happen I would have backed out of the deal. Simply changing the front engine cover(hence installing a new oil pump) at that point would not be enough as there is no way to determine how many times that vehicle was started with insufficient oil flow or quantifying how much damage was done.