F250 Payload Sticker Request
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I'm pretty sure with the camper package you get the 350 springs, no?
In any event you can certainly make the rear suspension much stronger than an F350 with airbags, additional and/or completely new leaf springs.
BTW the front springs are also slightly weaker on the F250 vs F350 as well. Also easily fixed.
For me, the bottom line is if you bought an F250 and want to tow/haul heavy... you made a MISTAKE. However, it's a mistake that's easily fixed and I refuse to listen to people who say it's illegal or immoral to fix the mistake and then use the truck like I want.
But for OP... don't put yourself through any of this... if you want lots of payload... go F350+.
In any event you can certainly make the rear suspension much stronger than an F350 with airbags, additional and/or completely new leaf springs.
BTW the front springs are also slightly weaker on the F250 vs F350 as well. Also easily fixed.
For me, the bottom line is if you bought an F250 and want to tow/haul heavy... you made a MISTAKE. However, it's a mistake that's easily fixed and I refuse to listen to people who say it's illegal or immoral to fix the mistake and then use the truck like I want.
But for OP... don't put yourself through any of this... if you want lots of payload... go F350+.
) we are right at 2k lbs which is the payload on my truck. I also carry 200-ish lbs of firewood along as well, so we are over our payload. I'm not really concerned about being a little over, and I know a '17 F250 will do fine for the fiver we have now. I'm just wondering if it's worth the extra to future proof for a future fiver. Or, do I use that excuse to upgrade trucks in the future? 
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Tom, for the minimal price difference, I'd just go 350 and be done with it. You can indeed order too much truck but a SRW 350 ain't it unless a Honda Ridgeline would handle your intended payload...
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No, not in the 17's. The camper package gets you an additional overload spring but the main spring pack of the 350 is still stronger springs compared to the 250 main spring pack. I don't know if the overload spring (which is standard on the 350) is different strength between the two but the chart shows the main pack is for sure.
edit* forgot that the 350 main pack also has an additional spring.
edit* forgot that the 350 main pack also has an additional spring.
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X2. Believe me, if you ever do upgrade your 5ver you'll save yourself $1,000 worth of hassle if you just bought the 350. Plus through all this, I've come to believe that the F350 is the 'real' truck and the F250 is it's little sibling. For me there's now some value in just sporting the F350 badge.
You are absolutely right. I still don't think it changes my point that if you make a mistake, buy an F250, and want to tow/haul heavy that it can be fixed with suspension upgrades and air in the tires; but this is just one more reason of many that I believe Tom should just order the F350.
You are absolutely right. I still don't think it changes my point that if you make a mistake, buy an F250, and want to tow/haul heavy that it can be fixed with suspension upgrades and air in the tires; but this is just one more reason of many that I believe Tom should just order the F350.
I also agree that you can fix a lot of these issues with other upgrades and the stickers aren't showing what the truck is capable of actually doing, but it is nice to be under the stickers in case of an accident. Also from reading other threads more states are starting to pull people over and give tickets based on people being over those stickers.
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I've searched high-and-low and can not find a single state statute about non-commercial. Oh my goodness yes there are laws on the books for commercial, but nothing for non-commercial. So if they have laws on the books for commercial... Nobody is going to convince me that they would not have them for non-commercial but it is still illegal.
So if I got pulled over and got a ticket, I'd sure as heck like to see the statute I violated.
Maybe I can't find them, but again, I challenge anybody to find them... especially for Florida. I'd love to see them... might even make me trade my brand new truck in for an F450 (well, if I have a good 2017 that is.)
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Please provide links...
I've searched high-and-low and can not find a single state statute about non-commercial. Oh my goodness yes there are laws on the books for commercial, but nothing for non-commercial. So if they have laws on the books for commercial... Nobody is going to convince me that they would not have them for non-commercial but it is still illegal.
So if I got pulled over and got a ticket, I'd sure as heck like to see the statute I violated.
Maybe I can't find them, but again, I challenge anybody to find them... especially for Florida. I'd love to see them... might even make me trade my brand new truck in for an F450 (well, if I have a good 2017 that is.)
I've searched high-and-low and can not find a single state statute about non-commercial. Oh my goodness yes there are laws on the books for commercial, but nothing for non-commercial. So if they have laws on the books for commercial... Nobody is going to convince me that they would not have them for non-commercial but it is still illegal.
So if I got pulled over and got a ticket, I'd sure as heck like to see the statute I violated.
Maybe I can't find them, but again, I challenge anybody to find them... especially for Florida. I'd love to see them... might even make me trade my brand new truck in for an F450 (well, if I have a good 2017 that is.)
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That's the way I'm leaning, and I think I've made up my mind. I've been playing with options, try this, try that, but in the end, that $1k isn't going to break me, and I'm sure I'll be much better off when it's done. Of course, I have to thank you guys for the input and for helping me spend that extra $1k!
Right now it's PA, CA, and TX that are checking non commercial rigs. PA is the newest to join the fray. It's not just trucks and RV's either. They will grab SUV's pulling boats, cars with sled trailers, etc. Anything that has a GVWR and GCWR they can look up, they will check. Boat launches are a new favorite haunt for the PA SP. 5 guys in an Explorer will eat all it's payload and leave nothing for the hitch of the trailer. Bam, ticket. They ticked the CDL's to death for years so those guys take zero chances anymore for the most part. However, the state got used to the revenue it produced so they had to look elsewhere....
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Robert, I just can't believe that my little SRW 350 is actually rated high enough across the board to handle my 20k+ 5ver! I never worried about ratings before as I, like you, know the odds of getting checked are non existent in most places. However, the new ratings just keep me under all the numbers. 
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Robert, I just can't believe that my little SRW 350 is actually rated high enough across the board to handle my 20k+ 5ver! I never worried about ratings before as I, like you, know the odds of getting checked are non existent in most places. However, the new ratings just keep me under all the numbers.
But I do very much look forward to the day that I, too, can say that I pull a big, heavy 5ver and am still under all my numbers.
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I NEVER worried about it Robert. I always knew my little 2012 that was over on GCWR was just fine. I'm not sure if I will have a epiphany towing with my 2017 this spring or whether it will be the same. I'm guessing the latter. LOL...
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I would say...if you are pulling ANY type or weight of Fiver....just get the darn 350. I have a 250 but pull smaller bumper pull. If there was just a hint that I might upgrade to a bigger camper/5Th wheel I would 100% get the 350 over the 250.
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I'm looking forward to reading about how different the experience is, if at all.
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Right now it's PA, CA, and TX that are checking non commercial rigs. PA is the newest to join the fray. It's not just trucks and RV's either. They will grab SUV's pulling boats, cars with sled trailers, etc. Anything that has a GVWR and GCWR they can look up, they will check. Boat launches are a new favorite haunt for the PA SP. 5 guys in an Explorer will eat all it's payload and leave nothing for the hitch of the trailer. Bam, ticket. They ticketed the CDL's to death for years so those guys take zero chances anymore for the most part. However, the state got used to the revenue it produced so they had to look elsewhere....