The miracle of life isn't birth...........but rather that we make it to adulthood. Get a good hold on something - he hasn't even hit Jr Hi yet........

On some kids spanking doesn't work and you have to find what deterrent does the job. Spanking worked for 2 of our kids, but the middle one it didn't affect - he'd just stand there looking at you like "that didn't hurt one bit, bring it on" Finally one day in frustration I told him he was grounded for a week. His response told me I hit his soft spot and from thereon disciplining him went pretty good. Had to admit I worked to hold back a smile in front of a 5 year old stewing about being grounded..... He's 21 now and turned out great.

edit: Fordlover51, germs? I thot 'dumpster diving' was the Montana state past-time?

 

Hey ....shhhhhhh.... dumpster diving is an adults only sport.

 

Start when they are young. Be consistant. Mother and father have to work together, no running to one parent when other has laid down the law. If you give them a swat and a firm NO when they are very young, you won't have to do much swatting when they get older.

 

His first words were F-off, and his mom just laughed.

 

Idiot children aren't idiots, just children. Everyone was young once.

 

This is the type of thing that burns me. No wonder the kids acts this way. His inappropriate behavior is being reinforced. I agree with what theologian said. I love kids, but if mine (if I'm blessed with them someday) ever said that to me, I would be sure to correct them. I also agree with Bubba, kids need structure and consistancy. Despite how many homes our runs these days, the parents are (supposed to be) in charge.

Ok, I've said my piece

 

my faveret thing is to hold them. arm's an leg's also til they get nice..lol an they will

 

Remember he's 9 so treat him like he's 13 he'll love you for it. Tell him he can have the joystick if he's willing to sign a contract (piece of paper) stating if the above so mentioned article winds up on the lawn, he will be held responsible for his action and will have to help clear and cut the lawn next time. If he screws up and leaves the thing lying there get him to help with the lawn and pay him a few bucks for helping after he's done. He'll learn some sense of responsibility and the value of a dollar at the same time.

If you beat him as a problem solving method, he'll just take that with him and solve his problems with his peers in the same manor.

Just my 2 cents

 

Any kid tells me to f---off he's getting slapped in the mouth on the spot whether I end up in jail or not.
I have several step children and my own 7 year old daughter. I never spank her although I have tried at my wifes insistence. My daughter is just as apalled at bratty kids in public as I am.
I also have an 11 year old stepson that leaves junk all over. He is always dragging home something he found and it all ends up in the yard. I have tried everything with this kid including spanking, grounding, no allowance ect. Nothing worked so I had to decide if the battle was worth it. And I decided it wasn't, he is a good boy and is always happy and outgoing. He has never met a stranger and is well liked where ever he goes. He just has a very short attention span. I decided to just be blessed by having such a good kid with a bad habit and quit making his life hell over it. I still hound him daily to pick up his stuff in the house and to put his fishing pole away ect., but I just know when I mow the lawn I will have to pick up some things.
Nutter, great advice. Also remember that half our kids grow up without a father and women just don't have the same authority. They will tell a kid no 15 times and then give in. When I tell one of my kids something he (or she) has about 3 seconds to be moving. I don't like telling them twice and they din't like the consequences of being told more than once.
Signed: 50 and still dumpster diving

 

i had never been so much as spanked as a child.

and i didn't turn out some spoiled brat.

I think often times you need to stop arguing and use real logic, and first and foremost let the little stuff slide.

i have to admit i was able to break almost every tool in my dads garage i even dropped our pick truck on me while changing a tire when i was like 11. didnt hurt me but it screwed up the rotor lol. its probably a wonder that i am alive today after all of the calamities ive had.

 

IMHO, idiocy is an inherited trait.

The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

Waxy

 

Here's another profound statement.


"A person always becomes a product of their environment "

 

Right on Nutter. Violence just creates more violence. Mental scars can last a lifetime. But if the occasional swat on the butt gets your point across, then I'm ok with that. Kids can be very ornery.

 

His behavioral problems start when he was 2, he stabbed a teacher in kindergarten, told his 1st grade teacher she was ***** and he leaves his stuff all over. I love the kid to death, he;s a great kid just has no attention span and doesn't know what NO! means.

 

I agree with Waxy and Mil1ion. I look at raising a kid kindof like training a dog, if you think there is a problem with the dog before you disipline it try looking at the other end of the leash first!

Longneck