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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 10:20 AM
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Not to be the grammar police, but it is a Cummins diesel. Cumming is something altogether different, lol.
I thought the same thing but didn't want to say anything.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 10:30 AM
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I think that if you wait too long, and the next gen RAMs are out (or at least announced) the resale value could drop a lot. Maybe trade in just before the next gen is released, just to get every drop out of it, then buy that SuperDuty!

Besides, if there are any known issues with the '17, they should be worked out in a couple years, plus inevitable new updates that's you will kick yourself for if you get a new one now as opposed to a new one in a couple years.

I would bet the F series will have significantly higher resale value that the competition in the distant future, because there is no risk of body corrosion.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 10:31 AM
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Where did I say I was getting another RAM? I'm planning on getting a SD. The question is, will mine be worth less do to the fact that a redesign of the RAM trucks would have occured.

Yes, I would say once they officially announce the redesign then your value will likely decrease unless it's a very mild overhaul. IMHO all the top 3 make good trucks, personally I prefer ford's.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 10:50 AM
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Thanks for the replies, what you guys are saying makes sense. Like RJC2 said, I have been happy with the Cummins part (I also have a 99) its the RAM part of the truck that I have had most of the issues with, that and the transmission programming can drive me nuts sometimes. I also know that all brands can have issues but I just thought I may try something different next time.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 07:09 PM
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Originally Posted by troverman
Not to be the grammar police, but it is a Cummins diesel. Cumming is something altogether different, lol.





Cumming is also a city in Georgia.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 12:46 AM
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If it's still a Cummins engine. I was reading that the Italian owners of Ram are pushing very hard to replace the Cummins with a Fiat diesel to keep their money "in house".
Wow that will destroy the Ram HD market, the Cummins engine is 'the' reason why many buy that truck.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 04:34 AM
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Wow that will destroy the Ram HD market, the Cummins engine is 'the' reason why many buy that truck.
I agree. However, Fiat supposedly has a Diesel that is more fuel efficient that is related to the Italian diesel engine that they use in the Ecodiesel half ton.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 06:49 AM
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Cumming is also a city in Georgia.
Fair enough, did not know that.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 06:52 AM
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I agree. However, Fiat supposedly has a Diesel that is more fuel efficient that is related to the Italian diesel engine that they use in the Ecodiesel half ton.
I think if people had the option of fuel-efficient Fiat or a Cummins, it would be an easy decision. If C & FCA split, RAM sales will probably suffer.

On a more positive note for FCA, RAM trucks will now be made in the USA and not Mexico. I like that, but I still have a problem with profits going back to Turin.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 07:03 AM
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I think if people had the option of fuel-efficient Fiat or a Cummins, it would be an easy decision. If C & FCA split, RAM sales will probably suffer.

On a more positive note for FCA, RAM trucks will now be made in the USA and not Mexico. I like that, but I still have a problem with profits going back to Turin.
I think it will be a terrible business decision for FCA. Cummins is an American Icon. Building the truck in the USA is a really good move. Installing an Italian engine nullifies the move in my eyes.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 07:34 AM
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I think it will be a terrible business decision for FCA. Cummins is an American Icon. Building the truck in the USA is a really good move. Installing an Italian engine nullifies the move in my eyes.
I think, generally speaking, businesses are wary of Trump's threat to charge a 35% border import tax. To me, it makes perfect sense. Why should we let our companies leave the country for cheaper labor, then want to re-import for free and charge us the same rate, but their true 'gift' is raising unemployment and not paying taxes in the US? That is probably why we are suddenly seeing companies like Ford and FCA do an about-face on Mexican production.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 07:37 AM
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Why so much dislike for foreign products? Not wanting to drag things sideways here, but I want the best product at the best value. Why would I care if it comes from Italy if they do it better than products made over here? In my mind, the Italians worked harder and won my business...I have no problem with that. The American auto industry is what it is because foreign competition...does anyone really think cars and trucks would be anywhere near as reliable and sophisticated today if it weren't for foreign competition?
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 07:45 AM
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Why so much dislike for foreign products? Not wanting to drag things sideways here, but I want the best product at the best value. Why would I care if it comes from Italy if they do it better than products made over here? In my mind, the Italians worked harder and won my business...I have no problem with that. The American auto industry is what it is because foreign competition...does anyone really think cars and trucks would be anywhere near as reliable and sophisticated today if it weren't for foreign competition?
I don't have a problem with foreign makes being sold here...I have a problem with American makes building their vehicles in foreign countries to make money on cheaper labor / more lax regulations and then re-importing them. They are screwing the very economy they hope will buy their products, and they will take the windfall of cheap labor and lower taxes but sell at the same price. Capitalism, sure...but surely not sustainable.

This is coming from a guy who has owned 3 VW's, an Audi, 2 Mercedes-Benzes, 2 Volvos, and 6 Land Rovers.

America has always built the best pickup trucks. We surely are not "learning" from foreign manufacturers in this regard. They try their best to copy us, and so far, it hasn't worked.
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 07:53 AM
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Cumming is also a city in Georgia.



Must have been my Canadian accent... you guys....
 
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Old Jan 10, 2017 | 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by troverman
I don't have a problem with foreign makes being sold here...I have a problem with American makes building their vehicles in foreign countries to make money on cheaper labor / more lax regulations and then re-importing them. They are screwing the very economy they hope will buy their products, and they will take the windfall of cheap labor and lower taxes but sell at the same price. Capitalism, sure...but surely not sustainable.

This is coming from a guy who has owned 3 VW's, an Audi, 2 Mercedes-Benzes, 2 Volvos, and 6 Land Rovers.

America has always built the best pickup trucks. We surely are not "learning" from foreign manufacturers in this regard. They try their best to copy us, and so far, it hasn't worked.
I couldn't agree more.
 
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