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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 08:00 PM
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Originally Posted by RIKIL
Here is the interface for the software I use to adjust my trans...do we still need to discuss this now?
Perhaps we do.


So what you are not telling everybody is that you are running a Baumann/US Shift controller with Shiftware software. Big difference from OEM Ford. But you know that.

You also know that the Quick 4 controller will control a variety of electronically shifted transmissions including the 4R70W and the E4OD.

There is a difference in the arrangement and number of solenoids used and this will require the correct interface cable, but all that is covered on the manufacturers website. The US Shift Transmission Control System

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Old Jan 3, 2017 | 09:25 PM
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Originally Posted by NotEnoughTrucks2014
Perhaps we do.


So what you are not telling everybody is that you are running a Baumann/US Shift controller with Shiftware software. Big difference from OEM Ford. But you know that.

You also know that the Quick 4 controller will control a variety of electronically shifted transmissions including the 4R70W and the E4OD.

There is a difference in the arrangement and number of solenoids used and this will require the correct interface cable, but all that is covered on the manufacturers website. The US Shift Transmission Control System

You're welcome.
After I answered Mark Kovalsky that I can control a 4r70w, you told me I wasn't able to control a 4r70w, and I corrected you. The answer is still yes, I can control a 4r70w. If I didn't have the TCS, I would be able to control is via supported ECU since I can tune that, as it states in my signature that I have a tuner. The answer is still yes, I can control a 4r70w.

Anything else you want to tell me I am not able to do so I can correct you?
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 05:08 AM
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We had a '95 F250 PSD that had "neutral" issues with the E4OD. It would drive along, then suddenly nothing. You would have to stop and fiddle around and then suddenly it would drive again. Now, it had 290K miles on it so it was no new truck. BUT, it sounds like it has similar issues that you are having.

That is why I was asking if you were actually breaking it or what. It does sound more like a glitch then a real problem with the transmission surviving the power you are putting through it.

Back in '96 I bought a new F350 SC dually with 460/E4OD. I put a Vortech supercharger on it and back then they really didn't make anything to help with shifting that transmission. I tried a BM shift improver(electronic gizmo that tapped into wiring harness on trans) but it was worthless. I had to let off the power, let it shift, then get back into it or it would have likely just burnt the clutches out of it. I pulled my 40ft trailer with it. In '98 I traded it in for a new V10 SD. I do miss that truck, it was a blast to drive. It went 15.8 in the 1/4 mile, letting off to shift. It would put a hurting on a Lightning of the day.
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 03:53 PM
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Stock 1st get lightnings ran 15.4-15.6
 
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Old Jan 4, 2017 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Freightrain
Back in '96 I bought a new F350 SC dually with 460/E4OD. I put a Vortech supercharger on it and back then they really didn't make anything to help with shifting that transmission.
Very similar to what I did...installed the Vortech blower in ~98. The trans was rebuild by Ford around this time but was stock (no shift kits or valve body work or pressure risers) and lasted for ~16 years.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Diesel_Brad
Stock 1st get lightnings ran 15.4-15.6
Yes. The day I was running the truck at the drags there was a red one there. He was baffled to see my dually running near as quick. He walked over to see and I lifted the hood to show him. He grinned.

If I didn't have to lift to shift, I'm sure it would have been a few tenths quicker.








I used to have a shot under the hood. I really, really miss that truck. I'd like to find a vortech kit for my '95 F100/302 truck. That would make a neat daily driver. I drove that dually everyday for 2 yrs until I traded it in for the new Superduty. Gas was still cheap and 10 mpg was not a problem.
 
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 09:44 AM
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Yes. The day I was running the truck at the drags there was a red one there. He was baffled to see my dually running near as quick. He walked over to see and I lifted the hood to show him. He grinned.

If I didn't have to lift to shift, I'm sure it would have been a few tenths quicker.


I used to have a shot under the hood. I really, really miss that truck. I'd like to find a vortech kit for my '95 F100/302 truck. That would make a neat daily driver. I drove that dually everyday for 2 yrs until I traded it in for the new Superduty. Gas was still cheap and 10 mpg was not a problem.
I have a Vortech in my 96 crewcab. But no slush box

I also have a vortech for my 94 Lightning
 
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Old Jan 5, 2017 | 11:22 AM
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The '96 was only an automatic because I bought it new off the lot. It hadn't been prepped yet, still all covered in plastic. I saw it, called and went in that night and bought it. You know that commercial on TV about renters insurance where the girls says "I saw and just had to have it". Ya, that was me when I saw that truck.

The new SD's, both the '99 and '00 were manuals! because that is what I ordered.

I've poked around online and you can get the pieces to put a Vortech on my 302. But, the budget these days just doesn't cover it like it did 20 yrs ago.
 
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 06:57 PM
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I have a problem with my VSS that I am chasing down, this is causing the trans to not shift, it is an intermittent problem.

In looking at my transmission software, I saw speed was 0 when I was driving. I then connected to my tuner and logged speed as the ECU would see it, same thing, 0. However, my PSOM is fine, doesn't jump at all and speed seems correct. I also replaced the VSS thinking it was old/bad but that didn't change anything.

So I am going to start tracing wires, but is there any chance the dirty fluid in the diff is causing a problem with the VSS? That is one thing I noticed when I removed the old VSS. I have fluid but what if it is low, would this happen?
 
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Old Jan 8, 2017 | 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by RIKIL
is there any chance the dirty fluid in the diff is causing a problem with the VSS?
If you have a solid speed signal at the dash then you can safely ignore everything from that point back, your problem is between the PSOM and the PCM which is a relatively short distance.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by RIKIL
I have a problem with my VSS that I am chasing down, this is causing the trans to not shift, it is an intermittent problem.

In looking at my transmission software, I saw speed was 0 when I was driving.
Ouch, that could screw things up, correct? The line pressure would likely be really low, thus making it slip really bad driving around. Kinda like when the cable on the AOD's would break and no one would notice til the transmission was toast.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 11:54 AM
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Ouch, that could screw things up, correct? The line pressure would likely be really low, thus making it slip really bad driving around. Kinda like when the cable on the AOD's would break and no one would notice til the transmission was toast.
It would screw things up, but it won't toast the trans. Line pressure isn't based on vehicle speed. This won't affect the line pressure calculation.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 11:57 AM
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Ok, I wondered about it. So it is basically more about throttle position.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 12:32 PM
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It's throttle position, engine torque, trans temp, and a few others, too.
 
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Old Jan 9, 2017 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Kovalsky
It's throttle position, engine torque, trans temp, and a few others, too.
VSS and TPS, from those two load is calculated and used as a factor.
 
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