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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:25 AM
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Alternator pulley help

Hello everybody, I've upgraded my Excursion with the 140 amp alternator, new batterys, heavy charge wires and extra grounds but it still will run down the batterys on short runs. So my plan is to try the smaller 58mm alternator pulley to give it a little extra charge on short runs. My parts guy is having trouble finding one and he asked me what year make model one of these pulleys may have come on. Does anybody know what he could look up? I give him the pulley dimensions but it didn't help him. Thanks in advance.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:41 AM
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Not to play Captain Obvious but if it were mine I would be more concerned about that battery drain so you don't get stranded somewhere in BFE
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:48 AM
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This is what I have recommended for this side of the border, but Canadian shipping hurts.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/OVERDRIVE-8-GROOVE-PULLEY-Gain-output-idle-in-some-apps-FORD-ALTERNATOR-6g-3g-/142185472052?hash=item211aea2034
Depending on the shortness of the trips 140a might not cut it, but the batteries will only except so much current, less so when they are cold. Cables don't help any of that.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 07:59 AM
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Not to play Captain Obvious but if it were mine I would be more concerned about that battery drain so you don't get stranded somewhere in BFE
Battery drain is the glow plugs. The voltage comes back up pretty quick but not quite as fast as I'd like.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 08:22 AM
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Nav knows that, his concern is the over time drain from not having full charging between events.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 08:57 AM
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Battery drain is the glow plugs. The voltage comes back up pretty quick but not quite as fast as I'd like.
Gotcha, I thought you were ending up with run down batteries and no starts

Jack, somewhere I read you can get an oversized pulley for the stock 110A......any ideas?
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 08:58 AM
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Nav knows that, his concern is the over time drain from not having full charging between events.
Yes that is my concern also that's why I'm looking for a overdrive pulley. Im hoping to bring my battery's up to a full charge quicker. They charge up great on anything longer than say 15-20min drive. Anyway I was hoping I could tell him that this particular pulley came on say a 94 F150 or something like that but if not I'll just order that one from eBay. Thanks for the help.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
Gotcha, I thought you were ending up with run down batteries and no starts

Jack, somewhere I read you can get an oversized pulley for the stock 110A......any ideas?
Ahh I see. Sometimes my posts are clear as mud. Lol.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 09:02 AM
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Yes that is my concern also that's why I'm looking for a overdrive pulley. Im hoping to bring my battery's up to a full charge quicker. They charge up great on anything longer than say 15-20min drive. Anyway I was hoping I could tell him that this particular pulley came on say a 94 F150 or something like that but if not I'll just order that one from eBay. Thanks for the help.
So you do actually have a problem with shorter runs and dead batteries?

I still think that is an issue, maybe I am full of it.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 09:09 AM
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One other thing to think about would be to put a smart charger on your batteries once ever few months.
 
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
Gotcha, I thought you were ending up with run down batteries and no starts

Jack, somewhere I read you can get an oversized pulley for the stock 110A......any ideas?
Did you really mean oversize, as in make it turn slower with lower amp output per engine rpm?

If you meant undersize, the link I posted works with all the alternators that fit on the 6.0.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 09:32 AM
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Originally Posted by navistarnut
So you do actually have a problem with shorter runs and dead batteries?

I still think that is an issue, maybe I am full of it.
Never dead but say if I run my son to hockey practice a few times which is like a 5min drive a notice it doesn't crank as good. Especially when it's cold out. Let it idle for 20 or take it for a good run and it charges right up. Alternator is a new Bosch 140 and battery's are new red top optimas.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 09:35 AM
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One other thing to think about would be to put a smart charger on your batteries once ever few months.
Yes I've been doing this but to be honest it's a pain. I'd rather fix it right.
 
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Old Dec 29, 2016 | 09:38 AM
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Also I should note that after a long run the next time I start it even if it's two weeks later it cranks fine. Just the short runs bring it down.
 
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Never dead but say if I run my son to hockey practice a few times which is like a 5min drive a notice it doesn't crank as good. Especially when it's cold out. Let it idle for 20 or take it for a good run and it charges right up. Alternator is a new Bosch 140 and battery's are new red top optimas.
I ran into this issue as well when I had my mother in a local assisted living facility. Someday I'll publish my alternator video which was redone just for this issue as there was someone here with the same issue. With you, now 4.

It takes about 10 minutes for a 140a to get the batts close to full up. You can shorten that with a 230a or so, getting more amps into the batteries during the 90 second glow plug engagement, but the battery acceptance rate still is the restriction. It's an expensive way for only a little time improvement. AGMs accept charge at a faster rate with their lower internal resistance, but then again it's price vs benefit. Sometime the inconvence of a plug in is just more cost effective.

This is another cheap source with a wide range of pulley options.

Ford alternator pulleys Alternator Parts - Starter Parts - Repair kits
 
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