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Old 10-20-2017, 09:29 AM
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at a high level...with out checking your door data plate

a. you have a max cargo capacity, lets just say for your truck its 2500lbs
b. subtract the weight of the slide in camper...lets just say 1500lbs...a little one
c. then if you also pull a trailer...you have to subtract your tounge weight..which is notmally 15% of the trailer weight....and you have to make sure that does not eceed the rating of the hitch..so lets say hitch tounge is 1000 capable...15% of your 6500 jeep and trailer is 975lbs.

so in my make believe example....yo have 25lbs left. no one can get in the truck, you cant load any luggage, etc.


you get the general idea.

check your door tag and check ford pdf's for max numbers by truck year.

air PSI comes into play was well. you beable to use max vehicle wieght, you need almost max PSI.

ask specific questions.....this is serious buisness
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by speakerfritz
at a high level...with out checking your door data plate

a. you have a max cargo capacity, lets just say for your truck its 2500lbs
b. subtract the weight of the slide in camper...lets just say 1500lbs...a little one
c. then if you also pull a trailer...you have to subtract your tounge weight..which is notmally 15% of the trailer weight....and you have to make sure that does not eceed the rating of the hitch..so lets say hitch tounge is 1000 capable...15% of your 6500 jeep and trailer is 975lbs.

so in my make believe example....yo have 25lbs left. no one can get in the truck, you cant load any luggage, etc.


you get the general idea.

check your door tag and check ford pdf's for max numbers by truck year.

air PSI comes into play was well. you beable to use max vehicle wieght, you need almost max PSI.

ask specific questions.....this is serious buisness

ok, so the above was for vertical loads...the direct weight carried by your tires

now move on to 2nd grade...horizontal loads...the direct weight pulled by your engine and drive train.

so your door tag tells you your max vehicle weight and some ford data says your max tow weight. numbers

if your max tow weight is 12000lbs (keep it simple)

a. your weight above was 975+1500= 2475lbs
b. your tow weight example is 12000lbs, but your moving 2475 already so you have 9525 left
c. your trailer and jeep weighs 6500, so you have 3025 buffer in this example.


conclusion

there are two factors on truck capacity

the vertical load caused by direct weight on your tires
the horizontal load to your drive train from the weight of the cargo and trailer load
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 02:02 PM
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You don't mention the year or model of your Jeep, but have you considered flat towing it? You'd be able to eliminate the trailer and only have a rolling load, no tongue weight which would greatly increase the available slide-in camper choices....
 
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Old 10-20-2017, 08:47 PM
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You don't mention the year or model of your Jeep, but have you considered flat towing it? You'd be able to eliminate the trailer and only have a rolling load, no tongue weight which would greatly increase the available slide-in camper choices....
I'm sure the OP reasons for having the Jeep on a trailer is the same as ours. If you have a significant enough breakage on the trail you can't bring the Jeep home without the trailer.

Case in point, at an annual event we go to in September the step-son broke a rear axle shaft on his Jeep. His rear axle is a Dana 35 which uses a c-clip inside the differential to hold the axle shafts in. With the axle shaft broken the c-clip can't hold it in and the remaining shaft, hub, and wheel will slide right out of the axle tube. We put his Jeep on our trailer and brought it home while he drove our Jeep home.
 
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I'm sure the OP reasons for having the Jeep on a trailer is the same as ours. If you have a significant enough breakage on the trail you can't bring the Jeep home without the trailer.

Case in point, at an annual event we go to in September the step-son broke a rear axle shaft on his Jeep. His rear axle is a Dana 35 which uses a c-clip inside the differential to hold the axle shafts in. With the axle shaft broken the c-clip can't hold it in and the remaining shaft, hub, and wheel will slide right out of the axle tube. We put his Jeep on our trailer and brought it home while he drove our Jeep home.
That is an interesting point and one I had not thought of. I had seen a number of folks "flat towing" their Jeeps, but am guessing they are not using them for any strenuous off-road activities. More likely just using them in the same manner as motor home owners.

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Slide-in and towing

We have a 2012 F-250 with a Lance 855S and have towed our Hallmark Motorcycle trailer weighing in at 7000# cross country once. Total weight truck and trailer just under 19k with 600# tongue weight. Etrailer has a scale for that and is worth the money to know how to load the trailer correctly. I have the Torklift Super Hitch and 32" Supertruss as well as Torklift Stable loads(Lower) Airlift 5k airbags and Roadmaster front and rear sway bars. It did the job well but we were overloaded for sure with 600# tongue weight on the trailer on that trip. I would look at the Lance 625 or 825 to comfortably pull your trailer and jeep on a regular basis with the above mods to the truck also. The trip we made was a one way one time haul but wouldn't load that heavily on a regular basis. The truck will handle the GCW for pulling and stopping but the tires (ours came with 20") are the weak link. I've been eyeing the Rickson 19.5" as like you a dually isn't in our near future. Hope this helps.
 
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